I know for almost fact that my daughter would run away, fearing for her life, and try and call me. I know her well and how her instincts work and I'm not sure that I would try and teach her anything different. Perhaps that is quite selfish of me. I am OK with that.
I feel for the family who has lost their child and I feel for the kid who did run away who has to second guess their actions forever and ever. That is more "punishment" than anyone should have to bear. At 14 they are still just babies.
At the end of the day, I would be happy that my child is alive.
As an adult, I'm not even sure what I would do in this case. Survival instinct or selfless assist? I have stopped to help people change tires on the side of the highway and even once stopped to assist a person that wrapped his car around a telephone pole...well I called 911 and talked to him until the ambulance arrived. (not qualified to move an injured person and the vehicle wasn't on fire - I would have pulled him out if the vehicle was on fire) Ah, who am I kidding I would have run like a coward.
I have had First aid and CPR training damn near every year since 1973 including training in the Navy to take care of Traumatic injuries on the battlefield. That said I have no idea how I would react in a situation such as this. I like to think the training would take over but until you are placed in a situation like this there is just no way of knowing.
As for how the young man reacted, I believe that Paramedics, Police etc would have told him that he did the right thing in his initial reaction to get away.
As for calling Mom instead of 911 I have to wonder if there wasn't a teacher or other school employee who was already doing this. Would a 911 operator rather deal with a terrified kid or maybe an adult who would more likely be able to impart the situation a bit more clearly.
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When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
and yet the herd mentality of the school was split between running away and running into the area. If it was an imminent threat to everyone, all the kids would have run away.
When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
and yet the herd mentality of the school was split between running away and running into the area. If it was an imminent threat to everyone, all the kids would have run away.
Sorry kid, you have to die alone.
Those that were running away were the ones in the vicinity of the shooting and believed there was a threat. Those that were running into the area were apparently not aware there was a shooting and believed they were missing a "rumble".
Would you have preferred that others died with him?
When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
and yet the herd mentality of the school was split between running away and running into the area. If it was an imminent threat to everyone, all the kids would have run away.
Sorry kid, you have to die alone.
I'm sure a Christian man, such as I think you would like us to believe you are, would not be so obtuse to be quite so judgemental, knowing that it is a sin and you could go to hell for it.
At least you have something to repent about this Sunday.
buffettbride wrote:I'm sure a Christian man, such as I think you would like us to believe you are,
I really don't care what you think I am, or what you think I believe
buffettbride wrote:would not be so obtuse to be quite so judgemental, knowing that it is a sin and you could go to hell for it.
At least you have something to repent about this Sunday.
You seem to know quite a bit about what qualifies as a sin and what doesn't, and are also quite happy to throw that knowledge around. But thanks for looking out for me.
When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
and yet the herd mentality of the school was split between running away and running into the area. If it was an imminent threat to everyone, all the kids would have run away.
Sorry kid, you have to die alone.
Those that were running away were the ones in the vicinity of the shooting and believed there was a threat. Those that were running into the area were apparently not aware there was a shooting and believed they were missing a "rumble".
And if it turned out to be more of a threat that herd running in, would have stopped on dime and turned around. It didn't at least the article did not say it did. It simply said that people were running in and out.
alphabits wrote:Would you have preferred that others died with him?
When it comes to handguns, we are by far the most 'well-armed' nation in the world (thanks to our Second Amendment), and for this dubious distinction we regularly pay a heavy price in the death and destruction of innocents.
I think the best advice you could give to an unarmed 14 year old (boy or girl) in the immediate vicinity of a school shooter - run and hide.
and yet the herd mentality of the school was split between running away and running into the area. If it was an imminent threat to everyone, all the kids would have run away.
Sorry kid, you have to die alone.
Those that were running away were the ones in the vicinity of the shooting and believed there was a threat. Those that were running into the area were apparently not aware there was a shooting and believed they were missing a "rumble".
And if it turned out to be more of a threat that herd running in, would have stopped on dime and turned around. It didn't at least the article did not say it did. It simply said that people were running in and out.
alphabits wrote:Would you have preferred that others died with him?
Of course not.
Then given the dearth of information regarding the exact situation, I don't think any of us is in a position to pass judgement on the actions of those who were there. Particularly considering they were teenagers ..... and young teenagers, at that.
buffettbride wrote:I'm sure a Christian man, such as I think you would like us to believe you are,
I really don't care what you think I am, or what you think I believe
buffettbride wrote:would not be so obtuse to be quite so judgemental, knowing that it is a sin and you could go to hell for it.
At least you have something to repent about this Sunday.
You seem to know quite a bit about what qualifies as a sin and what doesn't, and are also quite happy to throw that knowledge around. But thanks for looking out for me.
It doesn't matter what I think you believe. If you are a Christian, you're supposed to leave the judging up to God.
We can talk all we want about doing the "right" thing, but bottom line, whether you like it or not, most adults would have done exactly what that kid did...run away. It's human nature, we've become a society that doesn't want to get involved, for whatever reason. Is there really a right or wrong answer in this situation?
Also, we need to remember that what the kid actually said and did may not exactly be what was reported. It wouldn't be the first time the media took some liberties, would it? Add in some adrenaline and fear and it will take some time for the authorities to really get a clear picture of how things transpired.
green1 wrote:What is wrong with kids these days? One kid 10 feet away heard what happened, realized it was real and then ran away to call his mom. No thought to try and help the kid who was juts shot. Unreal.
most schools teach the kids to run and hide not to help.
At 14 they are still just babies. 
