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mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
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ph4ever wrote:
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AlbatrossFlyer wrote:what's the school policy on cell phones?

most of the high schools here require them to be off during school hours. (cheating, distraction from classroom learning, etc.) which in my book pretty much defeats any purpose of sending junior off to school with one....

if something is so important that you need to get a hold of your kid during school hours you should probably be calling the principal's office anyway.
general policy is phones are not turned on in class. it is more the after-school activities i want to know about. "can i go to so-and-so's house" etc.

we carpool with another family who picks her up after school, so i like to know if she wants to make other plans so i can communicate with them.
what's the punishment for those that violate the rule? At Steven's school they took away the phone and would not return till the end of semister or until parents came and fetched it and had a talk with the principal
don't know. i've never paid attention to cell phone rules since she's never had one. i'd expect her to follow all school cell phone rules unless there was an issue of life and limb. i can guarantee her punishment at home would be far worse than what the school would do.
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chippewa wrote:
...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
i think i'd take the car and the phone.

until she's 30.
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popcornjack wrote:Granted, i have no kids (that I know of) so my thoughts are of a more "philosophical" nature, if you will....

Understanding that this isn't the world the one we grew up in, how important is it to actually have a phone? How often would it really need to be used? It's easy to think of the extreme situation--something happens while at school, or when she's out with friends that would require immediate resolution--but how often will something like that happen? It's a good way to keep tabs on her, but it seemed to work fine when I was a kid and my parents couldn't. yes, there are far fewer (if any) payphones left in the world so the ability to make contact if there were an emergency situation is limited, but once again, how often would that happen? And if it did, odds are likely that someone she's with would have a phone anyway.

Which is another aspect of it. From a social standpoint, how important is it? Just like when cable/atari/cabbage patch kids/whatever new thing it is came out, who had one versus who didn't became an issue--"Wow that person has a xxxxxx, that's cool, I need to have one." Granted, with the relative ease of getting one, I think some of the "coolness" factor of having a cell phone has worn off, but can still be that stigma of "you don't have one?"

There's no reason not to do things differently because of the new technology and changes in the world just because we didn't need them as kids, but that doesn't mean things should be done differently just because the opportunity exists. Ultimately the decision rests with you, because it's your child and determining what is best for her (and her family) is the most important factor.
You make some great points!

For me as a parent, it's more about convenience of communication than about true emergencies. However, once they're at the age where they're not with a supervising adult 100% of the time, I want my kids to be able to contact me directly, not have to rely on someone else having a phone or being able to find a public phone.

I survived middle school without things like seat belts and most medicines, too. It's a different world now! Adults in the community don't keep an eye on other people's kids like they used to; it's much harder for kids to be independent and safe at the same time.

The coolness factor is always a big issue. We pay for simple phones and basic service for my kids; if they want a fancy phone or lots of texting, they have to pay for that themselves.

Your last line is all true! Each child and each family needs to make their own decision. And pronouncing what you would do "if" you had a kid isn't really helpful to me - parenting is completely different "in real life" than what I expected, and a lot of my old philosophical ideals just don't apply. :)
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she actually saw her first movie with bare-boobs in it the other day; titanic.
Was that the movie?... or the boobs?? 8) :o
:lol: the movie.

i totally forgot there were even boobs in it.
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KeetAtHeart wrote:Your last line is all true! Each child and each family needs to make their own decision. And pronouncing what you would do "if" you had a kid isn't really helpful to me - parenting is completely different "in real life" than what I expected, and a lot of my old philosophical ideals just don't apply. :)
I certainly hope that's not how it came across. Trust me, the first thing I think I would ever do if I had a kid is sh*t my pants, and continue to do that for a very long time. :lol:
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buffettbride wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
she actually saw her first movie with bare-boobs in it the other day; titanic.
Was that the movie?... or the boobs?? 8) :o
:lol: the movie.

i totally forgot there were even boobs in it.
hmmm...I never saw this movie. Maybe I will now.
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buffettbride wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
she actually saw her first movie with bare-boobs in it the other day; titanic.
Was that the movie?... or the boobs?? 8) :o
:lol: the movie.

i totally forgot there were even boobs in it.
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overwhelmingly the people in this thread with kids, close or near to my daughter's age are pro-phone.

those without kids are pretty much, "you got along fine without one. kids today don't need that crap."

:lol:

i'm mostly just wondering now exactly how much sex i have to have with hubby to get my way.
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popcornjack wrote:
KeetAtHeart wrote:Your last line is all true! Each child and each family needs to make their own decision. And pronouncing what you would do "if" you had a kid isn't really helpful to me - parenting is completely different "in real life" than what I expected, and a lot of my old philosophical ideals just don't apply. :)
I certainly hope that's not how it came across. Trust me, the first thing I think I would ever do if I had a kid is sh*t my pants, and continue to do that for a very long time. :lol:
Nope, didn't come across that way at all - but that is an appropriate response! I think I'm doing more and more of that as mine get older! :)

My comment was general, along the lines of Jimmy's song..."Don't try to describe a Kiss concert if you've never seen it..."
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my g'son started 2nd grade this year...he's got a cell phone...

but his Dad is the IT for the school system, his other g'ma was supt. of schools until she retired...

he's a very techno kid, so he'll do OK with it.
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chippewa wrote:
mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
Total, absolute 100% deal breaker........

Phone gone, car gone, freedom GONE......she knows the minute she gets in the car....phone is in her purse and purse goes in the back seat.
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pbans wrote:
chippewa wrote:
mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
Total, absolute 100% deal breaker........

Phone gone, car gone, freedom GONE......she knows the minute she gets in the car....phone is in her purse and purse goes in the back seat.
that's nice, but...
how the hell are you gonna know if your kid is texting in the car while he/she's driving anyway? :-? :roll:
The prospect of that is waaay more LIKELY (and, honestly, scarier) as the fear of drunk driving.
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
pbans wrote:
chippewa wrote:
mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
Total, absolute 100% deal breaker........

Phone gone, car gone, freedom GONE......she knows the minute she gets in the car....phone is in her purse and purse goes in the back seat.
that's nice, but...
how the hell are you gonna know if your kid is texting in the car while he/she's driving anyway? :-? :roll:
The prospect of that is waaay more LIKELY (and, honestly, scarier) as the fear of drunk driving.
There's a lot of things our kids could be doing that they aren't supposed to do but know there is very little way of someone finding out. That's when you cross your fingers and hope all the hard work you've done to help them make the right choices kick in.

My level of confidence that Paige's Caitlin doesn't text while driving is very high.

I think by denying privelige (a la never having a cell phone or whatever) a parent creates just as much the possibility of problematic rebellion, than the misuse of privelige.
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buffettbride wrote:overwhelmingly the people in this thread with kids, close or near to my daughter's age are pro-phone.

those without kids are pretty much, "you got along fine without one. kids today don't need that crap."

:lol:

i'm mostly just wondering now exactly how much sex i have to have with hubby to get my way.
Which just goes to show you the "theory vs. reality" of the world. :lol: :lol:
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buffettbride wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:
pbans wrote:
chippewa wrote:
mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
Total, absolute 100% deal breaker........

Phone gone, car gone, freedom GONE......she knows the minute she gets in the car....phone is in her purse and purse goes in the back seat.
that's nice, but...
how the hell are you gonna know if your kid is texting in the car while he/she's driving anyway? :-? :roll:
The prospect of that is waaay more LIKELY (and, honestly, scarier) as the fear of drunk driving.
There's a lot of things our kids could be doing that they aren't supposed to do but know there is very little way of someone finding out. That's when you cross your fingers and hope all the hard work you've done to help them make the right choices kick in.

My level of confidence that Paige's Caitlin doesn't text while driving is very high.

I think by denying privelige (a la never having a cell phone or whatever) a parent creates just as much the possibility of problematic rebellion, than the misuse of privelige.
I never had that problem with Steven - he knows what I'm capable of and has seen me in action. [smilie=blush.gif] [smilie=battingeyes.gif] :lol:

He's also busted a gut at me a few times when my mojo was directed at him. :roll: :lol:
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
pbans wrote:
chippewa wrote:
mommar wrote:
chippewa wrote:Shared one phone with my wife till I got my own this year. I'm 47. :lol:
It does have a camera, so I'd better control myself. :o
You're a little young for a phone chip.............my hubby shared one w/me til last year, he was 54 :wink: :lol: :lol:
I think she just felt bad that one time she forgot to pick me up from soccer practice.
I had to carry my backpack and tuba all the way home. :lol:


...and if anybody has kids that are of driving age, catching them texting while driving should be a deal-breaker.
Total, absolute 100% deal breaker........

Phone gone, car gone, freedom GONE......she knows the minute she gets in the car....phone is in her purse and purse goes in the back seat.
that's nice, but...
how the hell are you gonna know if your kid is texting in the car while he/she's driving anyway? :-? :roll:
The prospect of that is waaay m
ore LIKELY (and, honestly, scarier) as the fear of drunk driving.
I can't know 100% of the time, but I pull her phone usage and if there is a text message or phone call EVER at a time I know she was in the car, it's done. She knows I look at her phone usage at least every other day.

She's scared enough of me and losing her car, at least at this point, that she's compliant.
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pbans wrote:With everything that goes on in schools today, I would not feel good sending a kid in jr high or high school off without a phone.

Caitlin has had one since she was 12......which is middle school age, here.

I like that I can drop her a text during the day that she can read at lunch if a schedule or something changes.

I like that if some crazed lunatic comes in to her school, she can dial 911 and then me.

I like that she has NO excuse not to let me know if her plans change or she's going to be late.......
I feel the same way. I'd held off getting my then-13 year old a phone until one of the kids kinapped in Missouri(?) looked the spitting image of my son. I got him a phone that day. He found out the hard way that I meant what I said about NO TEXTING. He lost all his video gaming privileges for quite a while after the phone bill came...... But I feel safer that my kids have phones to call for help if they need it.
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buffettbride wrote:How young is too young for a cell phone?

My kiddo is 11 and a middle schooler (and at a MUCH bigger school than she's used to). There's a lot more flexibility in her day than there ever was before. I think it would be nice for her to keep in touch, or at least be able to, if needed. I figure a basic phone with uberrestrictions on it to start wouldn't be a bad idea, especially to teach responsible phone usage.

Part of me still thinks (and hubby definitely thinks) 11 is still too young. But I think even more than she wants a phone, I want her to have one.

Since we have to switch phones and plans in the next few months anyway, it would be a good time to add her on to the plan as well.

Anyway, how young is too young? (I basically think in this situation that I get to pull the "Mom Trump Card" and get my way) :wink:
I think it depends on the kid, the phone plan, the reason they are getting one.
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Post by Wino you know »

I see nothing wrong with an 11-year old child having a cell phone at school if they know how to use it. They're great for unforseen emergencies.

HOWEVER, I do think all young girls between the ages of 16 and 30 should be given a CHOICE between a cell phone and a driver's license.

And you people thought I could never be pro-choice. :P
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