mermaidindisguise wrote:I'm sorry, but in the "what the heck were you thinking category....."
Who would pick a VP knowing sher 16 y/o daughter is pregnant?
Husband had a past DUI....
Scandal in town where she put pressure on a commisioner to have her ex - brother-in-law fired.... (trooper)....
Don't you think she has more pressing issues at home - a 5 month downs syndrome baby who needs her - a daughter who needs her WAY more than she needs the spotlight she is getting now. I just don't see what their thinking was .... I don't care who she stood up tp - there were so many other better choices for VP.... sorry - just my opinion. If family values are so important to her - she should stay home and figure out why her daughter keeps getting pregnant... oops I mean why she got pregnant
Whom would you have run?
I would have respected McCain to have picked Joe Lieberman.
He's shown that he can "stand up on his own two feet", and I got to give him props for that.
Too bad McCain couldn't stand up for his convictions again... like the maverick he was in 2000
$#@&...only Vegas again?? Padres ...gotta start believin'!Bring on '14 Spring Training!
mermaidindisguise wrote:I'm sorry, but in the "what the heck were you thinking category....."
Who would pick a VP knowing sher 16 y/o daughter is pregnant?
Husband had a past DUI....
Scandal in town where she put pressure on a commisioner to have her ex - brother-in-law fired.... (trooper)....
Don't you think she has more pressing issues at home - a 5 month downs syndrome baby who needs her - a daughter who needs her WAY more than she needs the spotlight she is getting now. I just don't see what their thinking was .... I don't care who she stood up tp - there were so many other better choices for VP.... sorry - just my opinion. If family values are so important to her - she should stay home and figure out why her daughter keeps getting pregnant... oops I mean why she got pregnant
mermaidindisguise wrote:I'm sorry, but in the "what the heck were you thinking category....."
Who would pick a VP knowing sher 16 y/o daughter is pregnant?
Husband had a past DUI....
Scandal in town where she put pressure on a commisioner to have her ex - brother-in-law fired.... (trooper)....
Don't you think she has more pressing issues at home - a 5 month downs syndrome baby who needs her - a daughter who needs her WAY more than she needs the spotlight she is getting now. I just don't see what their thinking was .... I don't care who she stood up tp - there were so many other better choices for VP.... sorry - just my opinion. If family values are so important to her - she should stay home and figure out why her daughter keeps getting pregnant... oops I mean why she got pregnant
Whom would you have run?
Tom Ridge would be my preference. Chertoff would not be bad either.
mermaidindisguise wrote:I'm sorry, but in the "what the heck were you thinking category....."
Who would pick a VP knowing sher 16 y/o daughter is pregnant?
Husband had a past DUI....
Scandal in town where she put pressure on a commisioner to have her ex - brother-in-law fired.... (trooper)....
Don't you think she has more pressing issues at home - a 5 month downs syndrome baby who needs her - a daughter who needs her WAY more than she needs the spotlight she is getting now. I just don't see what their thinking was .... I don't care who she stood up tp - there were so many other better choices for VP.... sorry - just my opinion. If family values are so important to her - she should stay home and figure out why her daughter keeps getting pregnant... oops I mean why she got pregnant
Really sounds like, "We want a woman VP, just not THAT woman for VP."
Lightning Bolt wrote:With this latest revelation hitting the wire today,
I'll jump in on that point of parental responsibility. I've got some relevant life experience,...as much as I'll say about that!
While Gov. Palin was so diligent in putting another one those 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling (and serving admirably as a public servant in many roles),
I feel like Mrs. Palin might be short-changing some closest to her in regards to her other job title... mother.
Speed bumps in life long road certainly happen, no doubt about that,
but when they're happening under your roof, under your nose... don't ya' gotta check yourself, too?
Yes, since all 16-year olds should be kept on a leash.
mermaidindisguise wrote:I'm sorry, but in the "what the heck were you thinking category....."
Who would pick a VP knowing sher 16 y/o daughter is pregnant?
Husband had a past DUI....
Scandal in town where she put pressure on a commisioner to have her ex - brother-in-law fired.... (trooper)....
Don't you think she has more pressing issues at home - a 5 month downs syndrome baby who needs her - a daughter who needs her WAY more than she needs the spotlight she is getting now. I just don't see what their thinking was .... I don't care who she stood up tp - there were so many other better choices for VP.... sorry - just my opinion. If family values are so important to her - she should stay home and figure out why her daughter keeps getting pregnant... oops I mean why she got pregnant
Whom would you have run?
I would have respected McCain to have picked Joe Lieberman.
He's shown that he can "stand up on his own two feet", and I got to give him props for that.
Too bad McCain couldn't stand up for his convictions again... like the maverick he was in 2000
I bet you would as that would have guaranteed Barak the election. The conservative base would have revolted if McCain had chosen Lieberman. Joe is a great guy especially on defense, but other then that he is very liberal.
Had he chosen Tom Ridge or Joe Libermann, trust me, dweebs like Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher and THEIR idiot a$$-suc.kers would be trying to dig up dirt on THEM. And what would be the chances of the hard-core Obama supporters crossing over to vote for McCain had he chosen Ridge or Libermann?
NONE!
ZIP!
ZERO!
NADA!
And his own Repbulican base would probably ALSO abandon him had he chose someone <strike>in favor of killing babies</strike> who is pro-choice.
I.M.O., he picked THE best person possible, and I'M excited.
They may not win in November, but if he can't win with this dynamite lady as his running mate, he can't win with ANYBODY else on the ticket with him.
And I like Joe Libermann.
And I like Tom Ridge. (A Vietnam Veteran-like John Kerry-remember HIM)?
Wino you know wrote:You people are REALLY grasping for straws.
Had he chosen Tom Ridge or Joe Libermann, trust me, dweebs like Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher and THEIR idiot a$$-suc.kers would be trying to dig up dirt on THEM. And what would be the chances of the hard-core Obama supporters crossing over to vote for McCain had he chosen Ridge or Libermann?
NONE!
ZIP!
ZERO!
NADA!
And his own Repbulican base would probably ALSO abandon him had he chose someone <strike>in favor of killing babies</strike> who is pro-choice.
I.M.O., he picked THE best person possible, and I'M excited.
They may not win in November, but if he can't win with this dynamite lady as his running mate, he can't win with ANYBODY else on the ticket with him.
And I like Joe Libermann.
And I like Tom Ridge. (A Vietnam Veteran-like John Kerry-remember HIM)?
Gary,
Don't you remember? You my friend are, "fly over country."
Your opinions are not as important as those that live near water I'm readyto move. There was a story in a magazine recently that a farmer could by 20 acre farm with a home and building in Iowa cheaper than he could have his septic system replaced in CA.
It's obvious we need to do a better job taxing contractors in California
Lightning Bolt wrote:With this latest revelation hitting the wire today,
I'll jump in on that point of parental responsibility. I've got some relevant life experience,...as much as I'll say about that!
While Gov. Palin was so diligent in putting another one those 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling (and serving admirably as a public servant in many roles),
I feel like Mrs. Palin might be short-changing some closest to her in regards to her other job title... mother.
Speed bumps in life long road certainly happen, no doubt about that,
but when they're happening under your roof, under your nose... don't ya' gotta check yourself, too?
Yes, since all 16-year olds should be kept on a leash.
She's 17.
The Bush girls were pretty wild. I think they were George's fault and not Laura's There's Amy Carter, and Chaney's daughter... who do you blame? Once upon a time, "kids will be kids," unless we can use kids to our own shelfish end.
Garry ... she's got some baggage and I'm afraid it's going to end up hurting McCain more than Lieberman ever would have ... talk among my political friends is that they are furious with the vetters ... and the snap decision, especially when there were so many other females out there would had more experience, more vetting and less baggage ... and I'm not talking about the family issue. The 527. Her close ties to Ted Stevens. Improper use of her office when she was mayor. The paper trail and 2 dozen cell phone calls made by her or her staff encouraging Monegan to fire Wooten ... The conflict with her boss that she's taken a lot of earmarks, while McCain campaigns so vigorously against them ...
Picking Lieberman would have represented a courageous choice. Together, I believe they could have done great things ... and there are a lot of moderate Reps who wanted the same thing
Just passing along what I learned during the course of several phone calls today.
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Garry ... she's got some baggage and I'm afraid it's going to end up hurting McCain more than Lieberman ever would have ... talk among my political friends is that they are furious with the vetters ... and the snap decision, especially when there were so many other females out there would had more experience, more vetting and less baggage ... and I'm not talking about the family issue. The 527. Her close ties to Ted Stevens. Improper use of her office when she was mayor. The paper trail and 2 dozen cell phone calls made by her or her staff encouraging Monegan to fire Wooten ... The conflict with her boss that she's taken a lot of earmarks, while McCain campaigns so vigorously against them ...
Picking Lieberman would have represented a courageous choice. Together, I believe they could have done great things ... and there are a lot of moderate Reps who wanted the same thing
Just passing along what I learned during the course of several phone calls today.
I'm sure I can sleep well tonight knowing Barack's past aquaintences are pure as the wind driven snow too I'll sleep well understanding the American press carries an unfathomable burden to bring forth the truth, no matter what the price that may eventually be paid.....
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Garry ... she's got some baggage and I'm afraid it's going to end up hurting McCain more than Lieberman ever would have ... talk among my political friends is that they are furious with the vetters ... and the snap decision, especially when there were so many other females out there would had more experience, more vetting and less baggage ... and I'm not talking about the family issue. The 527. Her close ties to Ted Stevens. Improper use of her office when she was mayor. The paper trail and 2 dozen cell phone calls made by her or her staff encouraging Monegan to fire Wooten ... The conflict with her boss that she's taken a lot of earmarks, while McCain campaigns so vigorously against them ...
Picking Lieberman would have represented a courageous choice. Together, I believe they could have done great things ... and there are a lot of moderate Reps who wanted the same thing
Just passing along what I learned during the course of several phone calls today.
I'm sure I can sleep well tonight knowing Barack's past aquaintences are pure as the wind driven snow too I'll sleep well understanding the American press carries an unfathomable burden to bring forth the truth, no matter what the price that may eventually be paid.....
I know... all hat and no cowboy
I didn't say anything about Barack ... he's got issues with the fundraiser guy.
I'm not finding out this stuff from the press ... sheesh ... I'm listening to people I worked with who are still in the mix ... the ones who are in a panic because they see this election imploding ... what they're purple-faced about is there were so many more choices ... male and female ... who would NOT have caused them this kind of grief.
Gentilly ... 42 years is a long time to wait .... a Northeast Texas woman can hope.
My love is an anchor tied to you, tied with a silver chain.
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Garry ... she's got some baggage and I'm afraid it's going to end up hurting McCain more than Lieberman ever would have ... talk among my political friends is that they are furious with the vetters ... and the snap decision, especially when there were so many other females out there would had more experience, more vetting and less baggage ... and I'm not talking about the family issue. The 527. Her close ties to Ted Stevens. Improper use of her office when she was mayor. The paper trail and 2 dozen cell phone calls made by her or her staff encouraging Monegan to fire Wooten ... The conflict with her boss that she's taken a lot of earmarks, while McCain campaigns so vigorously against them ...
Picking Lieberman would have represented a courageous choice. Together, I believe they could have done great things ... and there are a lot of moderate Reps who wanted the same thing
Just passing along what I learned during the course of several phone calls today.
I'm sure I can sleep well tonight knowing Barack's past aquaintences are pure as the wind driven snow too I'll sleep well understanding the American press carries an unfathomable burden to bring forth the truth, no matter what the price that may eventually be paid.....
I know... all hat and no cowboy
I didn't say anything about Barack ... he's got issues with the fundraiser guy.
I'm not finding out this stuff from the press ... sheesh ... I'm listening to people I worked with who are still in the mix ... the ones who are in a panic because they see this election imploding ... what they're purple-faced about is there were so many more choices ... male and female ... who would NOT have caused them this kind of grief.
Aren't these people a huge part of the problem? ETP, I am BURNT OUT on more of the same. I'm feeling more Ed Abbey every single day I live in California where Texas business, Enron, Dynergy and El Paso Natural Gas, SCREWED US big time by playing games with "the system." And Ross Perot's company held seminars on how to manipulate the software to make money with our inept software All this crapola with gas prices feel a whole like more of the same. Bush REFUSED to investigate FERC. His cronies made huge mondo $$$$$$$. I 'll take ANYONE willing to hit big oil in the face!
Love you... off to the hot tub with a fine bottle of California wine
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Garry ... she's got some baggage and I'm afraid it's going to end up hurting McCain more than Lieberman ever would have ... talk among my political friends is that they are furious with the vetters ... and the snap decision, especially when there were so many other females out there would had more experience, more vetting and less baggage ... and I'm not talking about the family issue. The 527. Her close ties to Ted Stevens. Improper use of her office when she was mayor. The paper trail and 2 dozen cell phone calls made by her or her staff encouraging Monegan to fire Wooten ... The conflict with her boss that she's taken a lot of earmarks, while McCain campaigns so vigorously against them ...
Picking Lieberman would have represented a courageous choice. Together, I believe they could have done great things ... and there are a lot of moderate Reps who wanted the same thing
Just passing along what I learned during the course of several phone calls today.
I'm sure I can sleep well tonight knowing Barack's past aquaintences are pure as the wind driven snow too I'll sleep well understanding the American press carries an unfathomable burden to bring forth the truth, no matter what the price that may eventually be paid.....
I know... all hat and no cowboy
I didn't say anything about Barack ... he's got issues with the fundraiser guy.
I'm not finding out this stuff from the press ... sheesh ... I'm listening to people I worked with who are still in the mix ... the ones who are in a panic because they see this election imploding ... what they're purple-faced about is there were so many more choices ... male and female ... who would NOT have caused them this kind of grief.
EP if its imploding how come he raised 10 million dollars after he announced his running mate. The campaign has said she has been vetted from the very beggining and was a front runner from the beginnning. Choosing Lieberman would have cost him the election for sure. Now the conservative base is energised to actually work for him.
Just got out of the hot tub and remembered one of my number one bitches about the internet..... it's really hard to communicate this way I promise to make sure I understand before I post my comments tomorrow. I appreciate good dialog and we NEED arguments to sort through the BS we're force fed by the media. I want to thank ETP and ejr for thier comments and views. I hope we all can learn from this new election process. Remember, we DO have the best congress money can buy.
If McCain had chosen a man as his running mate and that man had the same family issues as Gov. Palin, would we even be talking about it? So much for breaking the glass ceiling.
Don't forget that other wild child, our current First Lady, Mrs. Laura Bush, who at the age of 18 or 19 managed to run over and kill one of her schoolmates.
I tremendously respect Sen. Lieberman, but he's an oldie too, and am not that young myself.
However, this lady has an awful lot of baggage. McCain should have picked someone like --his friend Joe Biden!
Diverg ... the money was raised after the initial announcement ... you would expect that bump ... now that the information is beginning to bubble up, there are concerns ... at least that's what I'm hearing ...
diverg wrote:The campaign has said she has been vetted from the very beggining and was a front runner from the beginnning. Choosing Lieberman would have cost him the election for sure. Now the conservative base is energised to actually work for him.
The vetting comment is sounding untrue. It was reported this morning that She was in Arizona recently for the first time do discuss. The same day the vetting team arrived in Alaska. I don't think this was McCain's idea at all. The pick really screws with the Dem strategists. I don't think it is the best person to step in if McCain can not serve.
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I'm readyto move. There was a story in a magazine recently that a farmer could by 20 acre farm with a home and building in Iowa cheaper than he could have his septic system replaced in CA. 
I live in California where Texas business, Enron, Dynergy and El Paso Natural Gas, SCREWED US big time by playing games with "the system." And Ross Perot's company held seminars on how to manipulate the software to make money with our inept software