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Posted: August 29, 2008 11:29 am
by karat
SharkOnLand wrote:Who names their kid "Trig"? :roll:
there is a Trig? I know there is a Track

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:29 am
by RinglingRingling
SharkOnLand wrote:Who names their kid "Trig"? :roll:
I knew a kid named Trig... from a good repub family... :D

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:30 am
by Brown Eyed Girl
LIPH wrote:If not supporting Obama means you're a racist, does not supporting a McCain/Palin ticket mean you're a misogynist? Discuss amongst yourselves.
Does not supporting anyone mean you're a misanthropist?

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:31 am
by AlbatrossFlyer
rednekkPH wrote:
Wino you know wrote:If a person's religion is the ONLY reason a candidate can't garner votes, it shows total narrow mindedness.
I dont care what religion our leaders are...so long as they leave that religion and the associated baggage outside of their offices each morning, and don't try to cram their beliefs down my throat.
except they don't....

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:33 am
by Wino you know
SharkOnLand wrote:Who names their kid "Trig"? :roll:
Hey, George Costanza wanted to name HIS kid SEVEN.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:34 am
by irishcajunphan
I think it is a good choice even if Mr. Irishcajun did say Sarah Palin was a looker. It got my female hackles up a bit this morning. :D

Hilary draw

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:34 am
by BFinnsUp
I think that if she comes across with some intelligence that she can pull a lot of the middle of the road Hillary people over to the Rep' ticket. She definitely throws an interesting twist into things.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:35 am
by karat
sometimes it comes down to the lesser of two evils.

I think it is great a black man is running and there is a woman for VP....

As for Obama - he lost my respect during the whole Pledge of Alligance (sp) when he did not place his hand to his chest...Believe what you want in the god you want, but show respect to our nation and flag.

Not to mention a few that he is associated with and like all the other politicians out there just blowing smoke around.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:35 am
by Brown Eyed Girl
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
Wino you know wrote:If a person's religion is the ONLY reason a candidate can't garner votes, it shows total narrow mindedness.
I dont care what religion our leaders are...so long as they leave that religion and the associated baggage outside of their offices each morning, and don't try to cram their beliefs down my throat.
except they don't....
Sorta like a presidential debate being led by a Pastor and held in a church? :roll: :-?

Re: Hilary draw

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:37 am
by buffettbride
BFinnsUp wrote: middle of the road Hillary people
There is no such thing. The people to whom Hillary appeals will not vote for the values Palin upholds.

McCain could have won the Hillary voters if he picked a VP who supported gay and abortion rights. There was some credibility to the recent commercial about the woman voting for a republican for the first time.

There's no way he'll get those votes now unless Palin suddenly decides she's a rug munching abortionist.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:38 am
by AlbatrossFlyer
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
Wino you know wrote:If a person's religion is the ONLY reason a candidate can't garner votes, it shows total narrow mindedness.
I dont care what religion our leaders are...so long as they leave that religion and the associated baggage outside of their offices each morning, and don't try to cram their beliefs down my throat.
except they don't....
Sorta like a presidential debate being led by a Pastor and held in a church? :roll: :-?
and while mike huckabee makes the perfect straight man for steven colbert, the last thing i want is a president that actually believes the earth is 6000 years old because the bible says so...

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:40 am
by Skibo
After reviewing some of her credentials, I'm kinda digging her. She will appeal to the anti-establishment crowd that hates the incumbents. She was a fighter in Alaska and dumped a lot of pork projects. Ok I was digging her after looking at her photo. It would be interesting if McCain won and was then declared mentally incompetent early on and she became president.

Re: Hilary draw

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:41 am
by BFinnsUp
buffettbride wrote:
BFinnsUp wrote: middle of the road Hillary people
There is no such thing. The people to whom Hillary appeals will not vote for the values Palin upholds.

McCain could have won the Hillary voters if he picked a VP who supported gay and abortion rights. There was some credibility to the recent commercial about the woman voting for a republican for the first time.

There's no way he'll get those votes now unless Palin suddenly decides she's a rug munching abortionist.
I still think there is a group of women that would have voted for Hillary because she is a woman, and will now vote this ticket because of Palin. In every election there is a group that doesn't feel either side truly represents their view and therefore they vote on some other criteria, those that voted for Carter because of his smile for instance. Don't get me wrong, a switch like you mentioned would pull a lot more over.

Re: McCain's VP Is Rumored To Be ...

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:42 am
by TheSecretsInTheCrust
Lightning Bolt wrote:Image
That's Tina Fey!!!
..and I would bet you that, unless she absolutely wows 'em in the Twin Cities,
that McCain has made a politically fatal mistake in going for this unknown.
As opposed to a three decade Beltway insider for "Change?"
Alaska is as far away from DC as one can get. Interesting choice here, someone that many people can relate to...a family member in the armed services (enlisted...not officer), handicapped child, someone that is the "soccer mom". I can't wait to see how this plays out.

Re: Hilary draw

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:42 am
by AlbatrossFlyer
buffettbride wrote: McCain could have won the Hillary voters if he picked a VP who supported gay and abortion rights.
except he would have lost 25% of the republican party vote, lost close to 90% of the mega money donors to the party, and have had a convention fight on his hands... not the best way to win an election.

Re: Hilary draw

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:43 am
by Skibo
buffettbride wrote:
BFinnsUp wrote: middle of the road Hillary people
There is no such thing. The people to whom Hillary appeals will not vote for the values Palin upholds.

McCain could have won the Hillary voters if he picked a VP who supported gay and abortion rights. There was some credibility to the recent commercial about the woman voting for a republican for the first time.

There's no way he'll get those votes now unless Palin suddenly decides she's a rug munching abortionist.
The gay community really wasn't into the Clintons.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:43 am
by Lightning Bolt
karat wrote:sometimes it comes down to the lesser of two evils.

I think it is great a black man is running and there is a woman for VP....

As for Obama - he lost my respect during the whole Pledge of Alligance (sp) when he did not place his hand to his chest...Believe what you want in the god you want, but show respect to our nation and flag.

Not to mention a few that he is associated with and like all the other politicians out there just blowing smoke around.
If see, there's where the Internet fans flames of untruths
That photo was taken during the National Anthem... not the Pledge of Allegiance. This moment has been confirmed by the major agencies.
Attention, not hand over heart, is appropriately given. ...you can look it up

The guy is an American...

Re: McCain's VP Is Rumored To Be ...

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:44 am
by BFinnsUp
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Image
That's Tina Fey!!!
..and I would bet you that, unless she absolutely wows 'em in the Twin Cities,
that McCain has made a politically fatal mistake in going for this unknown.
As opposed to a three decade Beltway insider for "Change?"
Alaska is as far away from DC as one can get. Interesting choice here, someone that many people can relate to...a family member in the armed services (enlisted...not officer), handicapped child, someone that is the "soccer mom". I can't wait to see how this plays out.
Hey, she is from Alaska - that would be hockey mom not soccer mom.

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:44 am
by Wino you know
Skibo wrote:After reviewing some of her credentials, I'm kinda digging her. She will appeal to the anti-establishment crowd that hates the incumbents. She was a fighter in Alaska and dumped a lot of pork projects. Ok I was digging her after looking at her photo. It would be interesting if McCain won and was then declared mentally incompetent early on and she became president.
What would REALLY be fantastic is if she and Hillary are their party's nominees in 2012.

Hillary does have experience, is a GREAT speaker, and, like her or not, doesn't mince words and doesn't care WHO she p*sses off. I'm NOT a Hillary supporter by any means, but I REALLY like that in a person, no matter WHO they are.
I don't know much about Sarah, but, considering she defeated an incumbent REPUBLICAN governor in Alaska, she's getting her message through to SOMEBODY.

Hang on, kids, the fun is just beginning. 8)

Posted: August 29, 2008 11:45 am
by rednekkPH
Skibo wrote: It would be interesting if McCain won and was then declared mentally incompetent early on and she became president.
Oh come on - If Reagan wasn't declared incompetent, McCain will sail through his presidency. I mean, didn't Reagan try to appoint a geranium to the Supreme Court?