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Intelligent Debate
Posted: September 6, 2008 2:41 pm
by BFinnsUp
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Brown Eyed Girl wrote:East Texas Parrothead wrote:Lightning Bolt wrote:Brown Eyed Girl wrote:East Texas Parrothead wrote:Palin's not going on the Sunday talk shows? If Biden had pulled this end-around, there would be howling all over the place.
If you can't "Meet the Press," how can you meet Putin?
Why muzzle the self-proclaimed pit bull in lipstick? It's just odd.
I'm betting that will change....buying some prep time would be my guess.
Meet the Press...sniff sniff....it's just not the same.

you're right, Kath.
It just doesn't have the snap of Tim Russert, when subbed by Brokaw or David Gregory
..and what does that say, when you can't present your new V.P. nominee
...BECAUSE SHE HAS TO LEARN WHAT IS GOING ON OUT IN THE WORLD ...THAT SHE HAS NEVER EVEN TRAVELLED!! sheeesh....
..this 7-year college grad better learn, REAL QUICK where to find Afghanistan on a map

I miss Tim Russert so much ... I would *love* to hear what he would say about all of this ...

He was the one I turned to when I needed clarity ...
I think if Tim were still here there'd be no question that she'd be on Meet the Press...because if she refused, Tim the bulldog would have crucified her. That alone could have determined the outcome of the election. Tim was "Everyman"...and people listened.
Exactly what I wanted to say ... thanks for putting it into words. Russert would have gotten to the heart of things, but he would have been a gentleman while doing it. No one could cry 'foul' when Russert was here. Besides always being prepared, he was fair.
As Jimmy said, we need to carry on the way he would want us to. We need to have an intelligent debate, in a gentlemanly or gentlewomanly manner.
Did anyone see Luke's work at the conventions?
We miss you Tim!!!!!!!
Posted: September 6, 2008 2:43 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
I missed seeing Luke ... how did he do?
Posted: September 6, 2008 2:53 pm
by Brown Eyed Girl
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
Will she put lipstick and stilettos on it? That's the only moose O's going to let in her studio.

I'd be hoping that the moose would stomp all over Fauxpra...
Posted: September 6, 2008 3:00 pm
by Wino you know
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Will she put lipstick and stilettos on it? That's the only moose O's going to let in her studio.

She let Rosie O'Donnell on her show. Why not a FOUR legged moose?

Posted: September 6, 2008 3:28 pm
by blackjack
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
Will she put lipstick and stilettos on it? That's the only moose O's going to let in her studio.

Why, she lets Gayle in?
Posted: September 6, 2008 4:05 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Posted: September 6, 2008 5:56 pm
by ejr
East Texas Parrothead wrote:I missed seeing Luke ... how did he do?
He was ok, and he got better. He has a lot of his dad and his dad's mannerisms in him.
Posted: September 7, 2008 3:41 pm
by Martonian
Palin agrees to first interview:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13227.html
Under pressure for being shielded for questioning, Sarah Palin has a agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson of ABC’s “World News Tonight,” according to an ABC News official.
No other interviews are scheduled. It will be the first TV interview for Palin since she was named 10 days ago as running mate to John McCain.
Palin had planned to return to Alaska this weekend but is so popular on the stump that she is going to stay out a few more days before returning home. One of her sons deploys to Iraq on Thursday.
Palin plans to sit down with Gibson later this week in Alaska, the source said.
The McCain campaign kept her off Sunday shows this weekend and plans to be sparing with high-risk network encounters, which they contend are unimportant to voters despite the media’s fixation on them.
But McCain officials could see her reticence was feeding the narrative of her being unprepared for the job.
Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.
“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”
Posted: September 7, 2008 4:40 pm
by Skibo
Judgment
It's kinda like the Madden curse, Obama praises someone and then all of a sudden they are getting arrested.

Posted: September 7, 2008 7:38 pm
by blackjacks wife
Martonian wrote:Palin agrees to first interview:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13227.html
Under pressure for being shielded for questioning, Sarah Palin has a agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson of ABC’s “World News Tonight,” according to an ABC News official.
No other interviews are scheduled. It will be the first TV interview for Palin since she was named 10 days ago as running mate to John McCain.
Palin had planned to return to Alaska this weekend but is so popular on the stump that she is going to stay out a few more days before returning home. One of her sons deploys to Iraq on Thursday.
Palin plans to sit down with Gibson later this week in Alaska, the source said.
The McCain campaign kept her off Sunday shows this weekend and plans to be sparing with high-risk network encounters, which they contend are unimportant to voters despite the media’s fixation on them.
But McCain officials could see her reticence was feeding the narrative of her being unprepared for the job.
Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.
“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”
Kind of interesting since Biden took the week off after the DNC, but Sarah isn't afforded the same luxury as the plagiarist.
Posted: September 7, 2008 8:08 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
blackjacks wife wrote:Martonian wrote:
Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.
“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”
Kind of interesting since Biden took the week off after the DNC, but Sarah isn't afforded the same luxury as the plagiarist.
It's one thing to take a week off ... it's another to refuse interviews. It's not like we don't know where Biden stands ... we know zip about Palin. She's tossed her hat into the ring ... she needs to get out of the kitchen if she can't stand the heat from the media glare. It's only going to get worse.
If the Dems refused to let their VP nominee talk to the press, the Republicans would have been howling loud enough to hear them on the moon. Talk about a double standard.
Posted: September 7, 2008 9:01 pm
by Joetown Parrothead
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/e ... alin_N.htm
COLORADO SPRINGS — The banners, buttons and signs say McCain-Palin, but the crowds say something else.
"Sa-rah! Pa-lin!" came the chant at a Colorado Springs rally on Saturday moments before Republican nominee John McCain took the stage with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a woman who was virtually unknown to the nation just a week earlier. The day before, thousands screamed "Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Sa-rah!" at an amphitheater outside Detroit.
"Real change with a real woman," read one sign at a Wisconsin rally. "Hurricane Sarah leaves liberals spinning," cried another.
In the short time since McCain spirited the 44-year-old first-term governor out of Alaska and onto a national stage as his running mate, Palin has become an instant celebrity. And since her speech at the Republican National Convention, watched by more than 40 million Americans, she is emerging as the main attraction for many voters at their campaign appearances.
"She's the draw for a lot of people," said Marilyn Ryman, who came to see her at the Colorado rally inside an airport hangar. "The fact that she's someone new, not the old everything we've seen before."
Posted: September 7, 2008 9:04 pm
by jackiesic
buffettbride wrote:I wonder who will be raising and caring for her 4-5 month old special needs child while she is campaigning? A baby with no developmental issues is demanding enough. Not good for moms. Not good for moms at all. I think I read she was back at work 3 days after the birth of her baby. 3 days . Ridiciulous. I think I can have about zero respect for this woman.
You know, we're self-employed. I had a baby on a Sunday afternoon at 5:13p, went home on Tuesday and went back into the office on Wednesday. I was not neglecting my child (he came along with me) and I was not back to a full schedule but the reality is, when you're self-employed, you do what you have to do. There were times that I breast-fed him at 11p, put him to sleep then I stayed up and worked until 330a when he would again awake to be fed before I could go to bed. You do what you have to do sometimes when you there is no paid maternity leave. None of us knows her specific situation at that time but I certainly have an idea of what she must have been going through
Re: Law Review
Posted: September 7, 2008 9:12 pm
by jackiesic
diverg wrote:SchoolGirlHeart wrote:BFinnsUp wrote:What has McCain run or done to prove himself?
CAPTAIN, UNITED STATES NAVY
Prisoner of War. Refused early out-of-sequence repatriation. Tortured for refusing.
United States Senator, 22 years
Unites States Congressman, 4 years
What has Obama done?
Community Organizer
State senator
US Senator 2005 - Present Spent most of that time campaging for
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You forgot that he answered "present" for roll call voting.
Posted: September 7, 2008 9:21 pm
by jackiesic
I don't think THAT'S going to happen
Posted: September 7, 2008 10:29 pm
by blackjack
East Texas Parrothead wrote:blackjacks wife wrote:Martonian wrote:
Joe Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.
“She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done. Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered. Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”
Kind of interesting since Biden took the week off after the DNC, but Sarah isn't afforded the same luxury as the plagiarist.
It's one thing to take a week off ... it's another to refuse interviews. It's not like we don't know where Biden stands ... we know zip about Palin. She's tossed her hat into the ring ... she needs to get out of the kitchen if she can't stand the heat from the media glare. It's only going to get worse.
If the Dems refused to let their VP nominee talk to the press, the Republicans would have been howling loud enough to hear them on the moon. Talk about a double standard.
What do you think "taking a week off" means. It means no work, no interviews...same as Biden. Geez, you have months to see her on every news show. I promise.
Posted: September 7, 2008 11:05 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
She didn't take a week off. She was making appearances. They restricted the media's access. There's a difference.
Posted: September 7, 2008 11:53 pm
by Martonian
East Texas Parrothead wrote:She didn't take a week off. She was making appearances. They restricted the media's access. There's a difference.
She's gonna be crammin' like a college student before finals this week in prep for her Charlie Gibson interview.
Posted: September 8, 2008 12:01 am
by Elrod
The media needs to stop whining and start working or get out of the business.
I had the opportunity to observe the media yesterday that was covering the McCain-Palin appearance in Colorado Springs. What a bunch of spoiled rotten crybabies. I'll bet their mothers don't know how they behave.
The media is crying now to cover their asses because they didn't see the Palin announcement coming. They didn't see it because they were sitting around in air-conditioned tents, eating catered food and waiting for the next utterance of the messiah.
In the absence of an official "short list" provided by the party or the campaign, the media fabricated a list based on their best guess. None of them was smart enough to include Governor Sarah Palin's name on that list.
While they recirculated rumors about Secret Service protection for Romney's family and speculated about Governor Pawlenty's sudden return to Minnesota from Denver, the real nominee boarded a plane and flew to the site of the announcement. The media missed the story.
I hate to see Tim Russert's name drug into the matter because I think he would be embarrassed by it. Tim probably would have been the first to invite Sarah Palin to appear on his show and he would've done it before the nomination. He did his homework and he did it more thoroughly than anyone else in the business.
Posted: September 8, 2008 12:22 am
by Brown Eyed Girl
Elrod, I don't think anyone here made any disparaging remarks against Tim in regards to being the media or press. In fact I'd say we were lamenting the fact that he wasn't here to help all of us, regardless of "sides", gain some insight into Gov. Palin. He was honest and fair, and his opinions garnered the utmost respect. I think a lot of the media crap wouldn't be an issue if Timmy were still with us. That's certainly why *I* brought his name up.
I'm sure Tim would have invited Gov. Palin to be on his show. That doesn't mean she would have accepted...at least not until she felt comfortable with the level of questioning he'd raise with her. And if that were the case, Tim would have made his opinion about it very clear.