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East Texas Parrothead wrote:
buffettbride wrote:Not that I'm a Palin fan or a rape fan or an anti-taxpayer fan, but really, how many rapes happen in Wasilla, AK? Not that that really has much to do with anything either, but it seems more like propoganda to me.
I heard an interview on POTUS 08 with the former governor of Alaska yesterday on the way home. He said domestic violence and violence against women is a real issue up there. (Can you spell cabin fever?) He said one of the missions during his tenure was to raise awareness of the issue. No other city in Alaska made victims pay for their kits. He said it would be like asking a robbery victim to pay for fingerprinting.
I see. I didn't realize it was such a problem up there.

I'm in the "rape is a crime" boat. It's a taxpayer thing, and I don't mind one bit. The last thing you want is a person who has been sexually assaulted not going to the hospital because they can't afford the rape kit. :-? :-?
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Re: Attack Mode

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BFinnsUp wrote:I watched some of these new ads this morning. They do seem like Obama is standing up for himself, but I would not consider them attack ads in the seem vain as the ones from the McCain campaign.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26667449/
From yesterday's Wahoo Gazette (Obama was on Letterman that night):
Barack Obama calls this the "silly season" in politics. So-called scandals and half-truths are created in hopes of swaying the voters. Both sides do it and they do it because it is effective. And the reason they resort to this kind of campaigning is because a vote is a vote, no matter if it comes from a dim voter or from one who is brilliant. And it is a lot easier to sway the dim than the bright.
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Re: Attack Mode

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chippewa wrote:From yesterday's Wahoo Gazette (Obama was on Letterman that night)
Now THERE'S a big surprise. 8)
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Wino you know wrote:
chippewa wrote:From yesterday's Wahoo Gazette (Obama was on Letterman that night)
Now THERE'S a big surprise. 8)
Hey, he's invited Palin, she just hasn't accepted. He might not be a "friendly" audience for her, but the only person I've really seen him get nasty with was Bill O'Reilly.

and Bill had it coming :wink:
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Re: Attack Mode

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chippewa wrote:
Wino you know wrote:
chippewa wrote:From yesterday's Wahoo Gazette (Obama was on Letterman that night)
Now THERE'S a big surprise. 8)
Hey, he's invited Palin, she just hasn't accepted. He might not be a "friendly" audience for her, but the only person I've really seen him get nasty with was Bill O'Reilly.

and Bill had it coming :wink:
Well, I may not like him, but I will say he IS a better singer than Jay Leno.
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East Texas Parrothead wrote:Rape is a crime, not an accident.

If your house gets robbed, do you pay the police to fingerprint the premises?

As a former volunteer at a rape crisis center, this is by far the most offensive thing I've heard.
I agree with you 100%. All I was pointing out that states use others insurance to cover thier expenses under the veil of balancing nthier budgets. If you get hit by a drunk driver, (a crime against you and I'm really not trying to compare this to rape) and require a Life Flight helicopter to a hospital, you pay. It's one more thing where you start to ask, "Why do we pay the taxes in firt place?" When you need public services the most, they are asking if you have insurance. :-? :-?
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Rape is a crime, not an accident.

If your house gets robbed, do you pay the police to fingerprint the premises?

As a former volunteer at a rape crisis center, this is by far the most offensive thing I've heard.
I agree with you 100%. All I was pointing out that states use others insurance to cover thier expenses under the veil of balancing nthier budgets. If you get hit by a drunk driver, (a crime against you and I'm really not trying to compare this to rape) and require a Life Flight helicopter to a hospital, you pay. It's one more thing where you start to ask, "Why do we pay the taxes in firt place?" When you need public services the most, they are asking if you have insurance. :-? :-?
Don't you actually have to have a budget in order to try to balance it? :roll: :-?
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Brown Eyed Girl wrote:
Tequila Revenge wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Rape is a crime, not an accident.

If your house gets robbed, do you pay the police to fingerprint the premises?

As a former volunteer at a rape crisis center, this is by far the most offensive thing I've heard.
I agree with you 100%. All I was pointing out that states use others insurance to cover thier expenses under the veil of balancing nthier budgets. If you get hit by a drunk driver, (a crime against you and I'm really not trying to compare this to rape) and require a Life Flight helicopter to a hospital, you pay. It's one more thing where you start to ask, "Why do we pay the taxes in firt place?" When you need public services the most, they are asking if you have insurance. :-? :-?
Don't you actually have to have a budget in order to try to balance it? :roll: :-?
details :evil: :evil:
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:
Tequila Revenge wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:Rape is a crime, not an accident.

If your house gets robbed, do you pay the police to fingerprint the premises?

As a former volunteer at a rape crisis center, this is by far the most offensive thing I've heard.
I agree with you 100%. All I was pointing out that states use others insurance to cover thier expenses under the veil of balancing nthier budgets. If you get hit by a drunk driver, (a crime against you and I'm really not trying to compare this to rape) and require a Life Flight helicopter to a hospital, you pay. It's one more thing where you start to ask, "Why do we pay the taxes in firt place?" When you need public services the most, they are asking if you have insurance. :-? :-?
Don't you actually have to have a budget in order to try to balance it? :roll: :-?
details :evil: :evil:
74 days late...and yet none of the politicians are suffering. :evil: :x :evil:
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
Frank4 wrote:
chippewa wrote:Just posting something that nobody can argue with...

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That is fabulous....I agree 100%
..it fits the past 8 years like a glove
It could aptly serve as the preamble to the Neo-conservative's revisionist Constitution, couldn't it?

Is that how you'd portray FDR's New Deal which helped revive the country from the Great Depression? or John F. Kennedy's New Frontier which helped shape today's social foundations?...
..ever even heard of these Presidents??

Those who feel any government sponsorship of social endeavors and solutions is a waste... also believed the World was flat.

Sorry dude, the New Deal did NOT get us out of the depression - WWII did.

And JFK, he CUT taxes.

And the Great Society that followed JFK - deserves a hefty share of the blame for many of today's societal problems, especially in our inner cities.

Again, to quote Mr. Reagan...."The ten scariest words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." :o
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krusin1 wrote:Sorry dude, the New Deal did NOT get us out of the depression - WWII did.
YEP!
And JFK, he CUT taxes.
YEP!
And the Great Society that followed JFK - deserves a hefty share of the blame for many of today's societal problems, especially in our inner cities.
YEP!
Again, to quote Mr. Reagan...."The ten scariest words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." :o
DAMN RIGHT!
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Wino you know wrote:
krusin1 wrote:Sorry dude, the New Deal did NOT get us out of the depression - WWII did.
YEP!
And JFK, he CUT taxes.
YEP!
And the Great Society that followed JFK - deserves a hefty share of the blame for many of today's societal problems, especially in our inner cities.
YEP!
Again, to quote Mr. Reagan...."The ten scariest words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." :o
DAMN RIGHT!
See the problem here is you haven't studied the works of Marx and Lenin. If you really understood what the final goal of the democrat solutions were you would be more supportive. You right wing radicals keep derailing progress why can't you just get on with the program?
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Skibo wrote:See the problem here is you haven't studied the works of Marx and Lenin. If you really understood what the final goal of the democrat solutions were you would be more supportive. You right wing radicals keep derailing progress why can't you just get on with the program?
I know enough about those two to know that I don't ever want to live under the rule of anyone who subscribes to their theory.
However, to those who enjoy s**.king the a$$ of their deciples, I'm sure there are MANY countries in Europe that would welcome them with open arms. Cuba too.
As for my "right wing radical-ness," I have no idea what you mean.
I just know what works for me.
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Skibo wrote:
Wino you know wrote:
krusin1 wrote:Sorry dude, the New Deal did NOT get us out of the depression - WWII did.
YEP!
And JFK, he CUT taxes.
YEP!
And the Great Society that followed JFK - deserves a hefty share of the blame for many of today's societal problems, especially in our inner cities.
YEP!
Again, to quote Mr. Reagan...."The ten scariest words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." :o
DAMN RIGHT!
See the problem here is you haven't studied the works of Marx and Lenin. If you really understood what the final goal of the democrat solutions were you would be more supportive. You right wing radicals keep derailing progress why can't you just get on with the program?
YEP!
The Red scare lives on, and it is totally propogated by the heartland.
You won't hear anything like that in any of the nation's great population centers
..except, ironically, San Diego... where we seem to live in the reality/backlash of the Brown (Mexican) scare
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Lightning Bolt wrote:The Red scare lives on, and it is totally propogated by the heartland. You won't hear anything like that in any of the nation's great population centers
I'm sorry, I just can't put much faith in the opinions of those dumb enough to live in those cesspools...um, excuse me, "great population centers".
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rednekkPH wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:The Red scare lives on, and it is totally propogated by the heartland. You won't hear anything like that in any of the nation's great population centers
I'm sorry, I just can't put much faith in the opinions of those dumb enough to live in those cesspools...um, excuse me, "great population centers".
You say "to-MAY-to", I say "to-MAH-to."

Living (too) close to one of those places, here's how I feel most of the time...

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Re: Attack Mode

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chippewa wrote:
BFinnsUp wrote:I watched some of these new ads this morning. They do seem like Obama is standing up for himself, but I would not consider them attack ads in the seem vain as the ones from the McCain campaign.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26667449/
From yesterday's Wahoo Gazette (Obama was on Letterman that night):
Barack Obama calls this the "silly season" in politics. So-called scandals and half-truths are created in hopes of swaying the voters. Both sides do it and they do it because it is effective. And the reason they resort to this kind of campaigning is because a vote is a vote, no matter if it comes from a dim voter or from one who is brilliant. And it is a lot easier to sway the dim than the bright.
Oh great and they keep having more kids than the rest of us. The whole place is doomed.
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/12 ... lin-probe/


ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska lawmakers voted Friday to subpoena the husband of Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, in a move that transformed a messy state personnel issue into a national campaign controversy.

The lawmakers acted at the request of Stephen Branchflower, who is in the midst of an investigation into the governor’s dismissal of the state’s director of public safety.

Branchflower said he also wants to interview the governor, but omitted her from the 13-person list of subpoena targets he presented to the lawmakers overseeing his investigation.

Branchflower said Todd Palin is “such a central figure. … I think one should be issued for him.”

Two Democrats and one Republican voted for the subpoenas, rejecting attempts by the other two Republicans on the panel to delay them until after the November election.

Sen. Charlie Huggins, a Republican from Palin’s hometown of Wasilla, appeared in camouflage pants on a short break from moose hunting to cast his vote. He lamented the political maneuvering that he saw as trying to interfere with the investigation.

“I see all this duck-foot action under the water,” Huggins said. “Let’s just get the facts on the table.

The Legislature hired Branchflower to examine whether Palin ousted her public safety commissioner in July because he had refused to fire state trooper Mike Wooten. Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin’s sister, and the investigation essentially is looking at whether Palin used her power to try to settle a personal score.

One member of Palin’s administration was caught on tape discussing personal information about Wooten, raising questions of how he knew those details.

The investigation began before Palin was chosen as Sen. John McCain’s running mate. Since then, Palin’s supporters have argued that the investigation is politically motivated, and urged lawmakers to turn the matter over to the three-member State Personnel Board, which is appointed by the governor and charged with handling ethics complaints.

Palin has said she fired the commissioner, Walt Monegan, over disagreements about budget priorities. Monegan says he received repeated e-mails and phone calls from Palin, her husband and her staff expressing dismay over Wooten’s continued employment.

Branchflower also asked for a subpoena for the phone records of one Palin administration official, Frank Bailey. Bailey was recorded calling an Alaska State Trooper lieutenant and discussing confidential information about Wooten, including his job application and worker’s compensation claim. In a deposition taken by Palin’s attorney, he testified that he never saw Wooten’s file, but instead received the information from Todd Palin.
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Joetown Parrothead wrote:http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/12 ... lin-probe/


ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska lawmakers voted Friday to subpoena the husband of Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, in a move that transformed a messy state personnel issue into a national campaign controversy.

The lawmakers acted at the request of Stephen Branchflower, who is in the midst of an investigation into the governor’s dismissal of the state’s director of public safety.

Branchflower said he also wants to interview the governor, but omitted her from the 13-person list of subpoena targets he presented to the lawmakers overseeing his investigation.

Branchflower said Todd Palin is “such a central figure. … I think one should be issued for him.”

Two Democrats and one Republican voted for the subpoenas, rejecting attempts by the other two Republicans on the panel to delay them until after the November election.

Sen. Charlie Huggins, a Republican from Palin’s hometown of Wasilla, appeared in camouflage pants on a short break from moose hunting to cast his vote. He lamented the political maneuvering that he saw as trying to interfere with the investigation.

“I see all this duck-foot action under the water,” Huggins said. “Let’s just get the facts on the table.

The Legislature hired Branchflower to examine whether Palin ousted her public safety commissioner in July because he had refused to fire state trooper Mike Wooten. Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin’s sister, and the investigation essentially is looking at whether Palin used her power to try to settle a personal score.

One member of Palin’s administration was caught on tape discussing personal information about Wooten, raising questions of how he knew those details.

The investigation began before Palin was chosen as Sen. John McCain’s running mate. Since then, Palin’s supporters have argued that the investigation is politically motivated, and urged lawmakers to turn the matter over to the three-member State Personnel Board, which is appointed by the governor and charged with handling ethics complaints.

Palin has said she fired the commissioner, Walt Monegan, over disagreements about budget priorities. Monegan says he received repeated e-mails and phone calls from Palin, her husband and her staff expressing dismay over Wooten’s continued employment.

Branchflower also asked for a subpoena for the phone records of one Palin administration official, Frank Bailey. Bailey was recorded calling an Alaska State Trooper lieutenant and discussing confidential information about Wooten, including his job application and worker’s compensation claim. In a deposition taken by Palin’s attorney, he testified that he never saw Wooten’s file, but instead received the information from Todd Palin.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...sounds like she may have been out to settle a score. I'd expect something like that in Chicago politics, not in Alaska
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Post by TropicalTroubador »

And, just in case you didn't think the whole Gov. Palin thing was sufficiently surreal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSZfvt0b0S0

...because *someone* had to. :)
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