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Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 4:52 pm
by carolinagirl
Getting back to this thread's original question, which we might have forgotten with all the rhetoric here, "Was Charlie Gibson 'fair' with Gov. Sarah Palin?"
mikemck wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Palin?
Did you see the interview? Mr. Good Morning America has interviewed many people. Do you feel there was another Charlie Gibson behing the microphone or like Fox news, was he fair and balnaced?
I don't think he was fair at all. In fact, in two instances, he purposely took her statements out of context in order to paint her as a religious fanatic.
I voted no. I thought I was seeing another Charlie Gibson. I think you can ask hard questions without "hitting" hard. He seemed to convey utter disdain for Gov. Palin. I've been around men like that when all they seem to see is my blond hair, and they expect me to be an idiot. She held her own despite his attempts to unnerve her.
And I say this as someone who doubts her experience as well. I just think you can be a gentleman and treat someone with respect while letting their answers show whether they know anything or not.
Posted: September 15, 2008 4:56 pm
by Wino you know
Well, THAT'S a no-brainer.
I was
MUCH better off 10 years ago.
10 years ago, I actually had THREE jobs.
Today I only have ONE.
Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 6:27 pm
by Martonian
mikemck wrote:It's interesting that you admit that John McCain is going to be the next eventual president, though.
He was saying that the next eventual president will be either McCain or Obama, not a third party candidate.
Posted: September 15, 2008 6:56 pm
by SharkOnLand
If he was going to be "hard hitting" and "unfair" to her, why did she pick him to do the interview?
She basically had her pick of where to go, and who to do the interview, why'd she pick him? It's not like every network wasn't chomping at the bit to get the first exclusive.
Or was he just trying to be "that guy" during the interview?
I didn't see it, nor am I familiar with Gibson's interview style.
Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 7:31 pm
by mikemck
Martonian wrote:mikemck wrote:It's interesting that you admit that John McCain is going to be the next eventual president, though.
He was saying that the next eventual president will be either McCain or Obama, not a third party candidate.
I don't think he's debating against other Obama supporters. It sounds like he's in agreement with them.
Posted: September 15, 2008 7:32 pm
by mikemck
Wino you know wrote:
Well, THAT'S a no-brainer.
I was
MUCH better off 10 years ago.
10 years ago, I actually had THREE jobs.
Today I only have ONE.
So did I. Ten years ago, under Bill Clinton, I had to work three jobs. Now, I'm getting ready to retire.
Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 7:37 pm
by mikemck
carolinagirl wrote:Getting back to this thread's original question, which we might have forgotten with all the rhetoric here, "Was Charlie Gibson 'fair' with Gov. Sarah Palin?"
mikemck wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Palin?
Did you see the interview? Mr. Good Morning America has interviewed many people. Do you feel there was another Charlie Gibson behing the microphone or like Fox news, was he fair and balnaced?
I don't think he was fair at all. In fact, in two instances, he purposely took her statements out of context in order to paint her as a religious fanatic.
I voted no. I thought I was seeing another Charlie Gibson. I think you can ask hard questions without "hitting" hard. He seemed to convey utter disdain for Gov. Palin. I've been around men like that when all they seem to see is my blond hair, and they expect me to be an idiot. She held her own despite his attempts to unnerve her.
And I say this as someone who doubts her experience as well. I just think you can be a gentleman and treat someone with respect while letting their answers show whether they know anything or not.
I agree.
Unfortunately, that's just how the left is going to treat anyone on the right and the right, seeing the way that they're being treated, thinks it's OK to respond the same way.
So now what we have is a bunch of people yelling at each other, calling each other names and bound and determined to be right at all costs, and all of the good people are either being pushed to the wayside or deciding that they don't want any part of it.
LighteningBolt is a good example. He wanted to be right and feel important so badly that even after I explained to him three times that I'm not voting for McCain, he still insisted that I defend John McCain.
Rather than listening to what I had to say and responding thoughtfully and respectfully, the very first thing he did was to accuse me of plagiarism and "attacking", even though he couldn't show who I attacked.
The way he chose to turn on me and make it personal, when his side would have been much better served by addressing the points I made, just illustrate the problem with what's passing for political discourse these days.
Posted: September 15, 2008 7:38 pm
by Elrod
I had four jobs when Clinton was in office.
It's been kinda nice to only work one for the last eight years (and make more money).

Posted: September 15, 2008 8:25 pm
by Martonian
SharkOnLand wrote:If he was going to be "hard hitting" and "unfair" to her, why did she pick him to do the interview?
She basically had her pick of where to go, and who to do the interview, why'd she pick him? It's not like every network wasn't chomping at the bit to get the first exclusive.
Or was he just trying to be "that guy" during the interview?
I didn't see it, nor am I familiar with Gibson's interview style.
Just wait though, her next interview is tomorrow with Sean Hannity. That should be real hard hitting.
Posted: September 15, 2008 8:28 pm
by Martonian
O'Reilly edited his interview with Obama. It's normal.
Posted: September 15, 2008 8:35 pm
by carolinagirl
SharkOnLand wrote:If he was going to be "hard hitting" and "unfair" to her, why did she pick him to do the interview?
She basically had her pick of where to go, and who to do the interview, why'd she pick him? It's not like every network wasn't chomping at the bit to get the first exclusive.
Or was he just trying to be "that guy" during the interview?
I didn't see it, nor am I familiar with Gibson's interview style.
Maybe she didn't realize he would be that way? He had a whole different approach than the folksy way he usually hosts the ABC News.
Gibson’s aggressive approach appeared to take Palin by surprise: He was clearly attempting to put her on point by presenting her as having extreme religious views. This again, however, appears to be a double-standard, as Palin grew up in the Assemblies of God, one of the largest Christian denominations in America with 16 million members, and is now a member of the Wasilla Bible Church. Even now, Obama has yet to receive any comparable grilling on his 20-year attendance in the congregation of the notoriously racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
from
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... erview#rss
Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 8:42 pm
by Lightning Bolt
mikemck wrote:
The reason they don't want to talk about the issues is that they know that Obama hasn't done anything. He hasn't authored any legislation. He hasn't served on any committees.
...He hasn't done a damned thing as a senator and his own followers can't even tell you what he's done that would make you want to vote for him.
They just say "change, change". And, in a sense, they're right because when this guy gets through with you, the only thing you'll have left in your pocket is change.
...and that's not "attacking" when you're spewing right wing rhetoric and outright falsehoods??
Sorry if I confused your views with that of the typical Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity zealot.
By the way, Sen. Obama is the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Subcommittee to Europe. (Those would include countries that REALLY do border Russia).
So I guess you did not know Obama's role in the Senate before you pasted...er. posted your rants?
When I debate in these threads, I make sure to bring facts along with the argument... tossing B.S. around doesn't fly.
I'd recommend you do the same if you want respectful discourse on important issues such as this election.
Re: Was Charlie Gibson "fair" with Gov. Sarah Pali
Posted: September 15, 2008 8:56 pm
by mikemck
Lightning Bolt wrote:...and that's not "attacking" when you're spewing right wing rhetoric and outright falsehoods??
No, it isn't an attack at all.
It's addressing his policies and his record, not him, personally.
Sorry if I confused your views with that of the typical Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity zealot.
Now, you see? That was a good example of what I'm talking about.
You could have proven me wrong by saying "I disagree. Obama has done ______" and then listed his accomplishments that would look good on a presidential resume.
Instead, you again chose to go after me and attack me, personally.
Do you really not understand that the fact that you, despite having been asked several times, cannot come up with one accomplishment, does more to lend credibility to my claim that Obama's supporters don't have anything to hang their hat on, than attacking me does to disprove it?
By the way, Sen. Obama is the Chairman of the Foreign Relations Subcommittee to Europe.
Fair enough. Could you please list the many things this commitee has accomplished under his leadership?
For instance, what oversight hearings has Obama held? How many times has the commitee met with Obama as chair?
I'll give you a hint: it's zero.
He holds the title of chairman, but hasn't even called the commitee to meet.
When I debate in these threads, I make sure to bring facts along with the argument... tossing B.S. around doesn't fly.
Facts? I'd love to see you show some facts.
Posted: September 15, 2008 8:59 pm
by Martonian
carolinagirl wrote:SharkOnLand wrote:If he was going to be "hard hitting" and "unfair" to her, why did she pick him to do the interview?
She basically had her pick of where to go, and who to do the interview, why'd she pick him? It's not like every network wasn't chomping at the bit to get the first exclusive.
Or was he just trying to be "that guy" during the interview?
I didn't see it, nor am I familiar with Gibson's interview style.
Maybe she didn't realize he would be that way? He had a whole different approach than the folksy way he usually hosts the ABC News.
Gibson’s aggressive approach appeared to take Palin by surprise: He was clearly attempting to put her on point by presenting her as having extreme religious views. This again, however, appears to be a double-standard, as Palin grew up in the Assemblies of God, one of the largest Christian denominations in America with 16 million members, and is now a member of the Wasilla Bible Church. Even now, Obama has yet to receive any comparable grilling on his 20-year attendance in the congregation of the notoriously racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
from
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... erview#rss
I did not gather from Gibson that he was trying to paint her as a religious extremist.
Posted: September 15, 2008 9:00 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Posted: September 15, 2008 10:15 pm
by flyboy55
Wino you know wrote:flyboy55 wrote:Are you saying you think George W. Bush is a dove?
YES!
FINALLY!
A smart liberal who GETS it.
I always KNEW there was something I liked about you, flyboy.

If you can like one liberal, you can like them all.
Come to the dark side.
We have a keg, BBQ ribs and LOTS of cigars.
Posted: September 16, 2008 11:30 am
by Wino you know
flyboy55 wrote:Wino you know wrote:flyboy55 wrote:Are you saying you think George W. Bush is a dove?
YES!
FINALLY!
A smart liberal who GETS it.
I always KNEW there was something I liked about you, flyboy.

If you can like one liberal, you can like them all.
Come to the dark side.
We have a keg, BBQ ribs and LOTS of cigars.
I like LOTS of liberals. (Especially ones with B-B-Qed ribs, kegs, & cigars). I just don't agree with them, that's all.
There's only about five or six that I actually dislike (Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck-the-putz Schumer, Keith Olberman, and the entire Hollywood a-holes).
The rest are, for the most part, fairly likeable people-I just don't think like they do. (Because I enjoy being right).

Posted: September 16, 2008 7:21 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Wino you know wrote:flyboy55 wrote:Wino you know wrote:flyboy55 wrote:Are you saying you think George W. Bush is a dove?
YES!
FINALLY!
A smart liberal who GETS it.
I always KNEW there was something I liked about you, flyboy.

If you can like one liberal, you can like them all.
Come to the dark side.
We have a keg, BBQ ribs and LOTS of cigars.
I like LOTS of liberals. (Especially ones with B-B-Qed ribs, kegs, & cigars). I just don't agree with them, that's all.
There's only about five or six that I actually dislike (Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck-the-putz Schumer, Keith Olberman, and the entire Hollywood a-holes).
The rest are, for the most part, fairly likeable people-I just don't think like they do. (Because I enjoy being right).

wha?..... you mean you
WON'T be at the Babs Streisand mega-Hollywood/boobs & botox-fest/fundraiser tonight in Malibu???

Posted: September 16, 2008 7:36 pm
by Wino you know
I'll be having sex with Sandra Bullock before you see me paying $268,000.00 to have dinner with that Pinnochio look-alike.