BuffettNews.com

The Press finally revolted a bit over Palin being on media lockdown:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13791.html

Sarah Palin’s relationship with her traveling press corps went from barely existing to downright chilly Tuesday, when the two sides briefly engaged in a standoff over journalists’ access to Palin’s photo ops on the sidelines of the United Nations meetings here.

Palin, whose meetings here were all to be private, has yet to hold a press conference with her traveling press corps, and her campaign has tightly restricted which media outlets have gotten face time with the candidate.

But the control rose to new levels Tuesday morning, when the campaign announced it would bar a Wall Street Journal scribe and a CNN producer from the small “pool” of journalists allowed to cover the grip-and-grin photo ops before Palin went into the closed-door meetings with foreign dignitaries and international policy experts and advocates.

The reporter, Elizabeth Holmes, and producer, Peter Hamby, were to have represented all the print reporters and television producers, respectively, following Palin’s campaign and their written summaries of the so-called “pool sprays” would be fed to other journalists following Palin.

The campaign eventually reversed its decision to limit the pool, but only after CNN threatened to withhold its camera crew from filming the pool sprays, during which journalists can snap photos and film footage and – if they’re lucky – shout a question or two.

The campaign’s original reasoning in barring Holmes and Hamby had been that Palin wasn’t going to take questions or make any statements at the sprays, so they were only appropriate for photographers and cameramen.

It allowed Hamby, but not Holmes (who said she was “rudely” turned away) to cover the pool spray before Palin’s first meeting of the day, with Afghan President Karzai. And it promised Holmes she would be allowed to watch Palin shake hands before her second two meetings Tuesday, with Colombian President Uribe and former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I didn't vote for Hillary, and I'm pretty sure YOU didn't vote for Hillary
but a heckuva lot of people did... there's no debating that.

Even more voted for Obama... there's no debating that.

Only ONE person (supposedly) had to vote for Palin, and now she won't even talk to the press.
I find that to be pathetic... but, then again, how do you answer questions in the face of so many CONTRADICTIONS to the product as advertised?

Lightning Bolt wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I didn't vote for Hillary, and I'm pretty sure YOU didn't vote for Hillary
but a heckuva lot of people did... there's no debating that.

Even more voted for Obama... there's no debating that.

Only ONE person (supposedly) had to vote for Palin, and now she won't even talk to the press.
I find that to be pathetic... but, then again, how do you answer questions in the face of so many CONTRADICTIONS to the product as advertised?

she's not a breath of fresh air, open and honest, blowing away the stench of corruption in DC? (while surrounding herself with the same players as have their hands manipulating shrub like a proctologist's finger puppet)

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

SharkOnLand wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

I seriously had hoped he'd make it further... at least he has administrative experience.

Lightning Bolt wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I didn't vote for Hillary, and I'm pretty sure YOU didn't vote for Hillary
but a heckuva lot of people did... there's no debating that.

Even more voted for Obama... there's no debating that.

Only ONE person (supposedly) had to vote for Palin, and now she won't even talk to the press.
I find that to be pathetic... but, then again, how do you answer questions in the face of so many CONTRADICTIONS to the product as advertised?

I'm a registered independent. In NY that means I can't vote in the primaries because I don't belong to a party.

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I didn't vote for Hillary, and I'm pretty sure YOU didn't vote for Hillary
but a heckuva lot of people did... there's no debating that.

Even more voted for Obama... there's no debating that.

Only ONE person (supposedly) had to vote for Palin, and now she won't even talk to the press.
I find that to be pathetic... but, then again, how do you answer questions in the face of so many CONTRADICTIONS to the product as advertised?

I'm a registered independent. In NY that means I can't vote in the primaries because I don't belong to a party.

You can come to "my" party anytime.

RinglingRingling wrote:

SharkOnLand wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

I seriously had hoped he'd make it further... at least he has administrative experience.

I really thought he would have been a wise choice for VP for Obama. I was also suprised he endorsed Obama instead of Hillary. I bet that ruffled a few feathers...

Frank4 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

SharkOnLand wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

I seriously had hoped he'd make it further... at least he has administrative experience.

I really thought he would have been a wise choice for VP for Obama. I was also suprised he endorsed Obama instead of Hillary. I bet that ruffled a few feathers...

I believe he was the cause of a tirade by WJ about disloyal friends...

RinglingRingling wrote:

Frank4 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

SharkOnLand wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

I seriously had hoped he'd make it further... at least he has administrative experience.

I really thought he would have been a wise choice for VP for Obama. I was also suprised he endorsed Obama instead of Hillary. I bet that ruffled a few feathers...

I believe he was the cause of a tirade by WJ about disloyal friends...

Would not shock me...in the least.

RinglingRingling wrote:

SharkOnLand wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:Biden ran against 3 much more appealing, younger candidates in Hillary, John Edwards, and Barack Obama.

I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've ever seen "appealing" and "Hillary" in the same sentence. But more appealing? Hillary is the love me or hate me candidate, no middle ground. John "Two Americas" Edwards, who claims his goal is to eliminate poverty, is a multimillionaire trial lawyer. Which one of the "Two Americas" do you think he's a part of? Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit but has no record to run on, which I guess in a way is appealing if you don't care what happens next. Biden even finished behind Bill Richardson in Iowa this year. Bill Richardson!!!

I think I'd vote for Bill Richardson over any of the other choices right now.

I seriously had hoped he'd make it further... at least he has administrative experience.

As one of those right wing radicals, I was hoping Richardson would do better. My preference is a governor over a senator anyday. He would have been a great choice as VP also as it would have helped with the hispanic vote. I also think he was the most appealing candidate to the p***ed off republicans

The entire story from Yahoo, no editing.

The lobbying firm of John McCain's campaign manager was paid $15,000 a month for several years until last month by one of two housing companies taken over by the federal government, a person familiar with the financial arrangement said Tuesday night.
ADVERTISEMENT

That money from Freddie Mac to the firm of Rick Davis was on top of more than $30,000 a month that went directly to Davis for five years starting in 2000.

The $30,000 a month came from both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the other housing entity now under government control because of the crisis in the financial markets.

All the payments were first reported by The New York Times, which posted a story on its Web site Tuesday night revealing the $15,000 a month to the firm of Davis Manafort. The newspaper quoted two people with knowledge of the arrangement.

In response to the disclosure, McCain's presidential campaign issued a statement saying Davis left the firm and stopped taking a salary in 2006.

A person familiar with the contract says the $15,000-a-month in payments from Freddie Mac to Davis's firm started around the end of 2005 and continued until the last month or so. The person spoke on condition of anonymity.

The connection between Davis and the housing giants that figure so centrally in the global financial crisis emerged after the McCain campaign unleashed a sharp attack on Democratic rival Barack Obama.

McCain has tied Obama to Fannie and Freddie's troubles and has called on Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines — both Obama supporters and former Fannie Mae executives — to return million-dollar "golden parachute" payments they received from the corporation after leaving. Obama had chosen Johnson to run his vice presidential search committee, but Johnson stepped down after McCain and other Republicans began criticizing his home mortgage deals.

McCain's campaign recently released a television ad that says Raines is among those advising Obama on housing policy.

Obama's campaign released a statement from Raines, who says he is not an Obama adviser.

Lightning Bolt wrote:

LIPH wrote:

CaptainP wrote:I usually avoid the political threads like the plague....but I will ask just one question...

Was Sarah Palin chosen because:

1) She would be a good Vice President (or President, should something happen to McCain?

or

2) She will help win an election?



If the answer is #2, that is the WRONG reason to choose her. Nothing against the woman, but that's just politics for you. Don't choose the best person, choose the most electable. Then manipulate them.

Did JFK choose Lyndon Johnson for any reason other than to help him get the southern vote? It's not as if choosing a VP nominee for their electability is anything new.

LBJ was a well-known, respected, experienced senator from a strong electoral state = Presidential credibility
Biden = a well-known, respected, experienced senator near a strong electoral state (PA) = Presidential credibility

I'm sure this is in a later post but....... isn't Biden from Delaware?

Skibo wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Martonian wrote:

LIPH wrote: I'd be willing to bet Palin could get at least 1% of the vote.

No doubt about that... lots of people love her because she's "one of them", and there are a lot of people who vote like that.

Like the well over 90% of the black vote going to Obama? Without that, Hillary probably would have gotten the nomination so I guess that's one thing to be grateful for.

I believe that if Obama wasn't running Edwards would have beat Hillary. She is such a polarizing person, it is either love or hate her and I think still 1/2 of the Dems hate her, plus add in the underground sexist men (labor unions) that would never vote for a woman and Edwards is the winner. Hillary would have to kill her
- - - - - - - - - - -
Yes but Edwards personal life is going down in flames

jackiesic wrote:

Skibo wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Martonian wrote:

LIPH wrote: I'd be willing to bet Palin could get at least 1% of the vote.

No doubt about that... lots of people love her because she's "one of them", and there are a lot of people who vote like that.

Like the well over 90% of the black vote going to Obama? Without that, Hillary probably would have gotten the nomination so I guess that's one thing to be grateful for.

I believe that if Obama wasn't running Edwards would have beat Hillary. She is such a polarizing person, it is either love or hate her and I think still 1/2 of the Dems hate her, plus add in the underground sexist men (labor unions) that would never vote for a woman and Edwards is the winner. Hillary would have to kill her
- - - - - - - - - - -
Yes but Edwards personal life is going down in flames

I hate to say it, but thank god Edwards didn't win the primaries. If he were the candidate, you know the details of the affair would have come out at the worst possible time for him. He may as well have poured gasoline all over himself and started handing out matches.

Years ago, Mc cain joked: " Why is chelsa Clinton so ugly? 'cause Janet Reno is her DAD" So in the arena every thing is NOT off limits. Mccain later said sorry, but ........

moeron wrote:Years ago, Mc cain joked: " Why is chelsa Clinton so ugly? 'cause Janet Reno is her DAD" So in the arena every thing is NOT off limits. Mccain later said sorry, but ........

Wow this is the first I have heard of this one. I didn't think he was that big of a turd. I really really dislike this guy.

Skibo wrote:

moeron wrote:Years ago, Mc cain joked: " Why is chelsa Clinton so ugly? 'cause Janet Reno is her DAD" So in the arena every thing is NOT off limits. Mccain later said sorry, but ........

Wow this is the first I have heard of this one. I didn't think he was that big of a turd. I really really dislike this guy.

I heard that story awhile back..I was a little stunned by it.

jackiesic wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:

LIPH wrote:

CaptainP wrote:I usually avoid the political threads like the plague....but I will ask just one question...

Was Sarah Palin chosen because:

1) She would be a good Vice President (or President, should something happen to McCain?

or

2) She will help win an election?



If the answer is #2, that is the WRONG reason to choose her. Nothing against the woman, but that's just politics for you. Don't choose the best person, choose the most electable. Then manipulate them.

Did JFK choose Lyndon Johnson for any reason other than to help him get the southern vote? It's not as if choosing a VP nominee for their electability is anything new.

LBJ was a well-known, respected, experienced senator from a strong electoral state = Presidential credibility
Biden = a well-known, respected, experienced senator near a strong electoral state (PA) = Presidential credibility

I'm sure this is in a later post but....... isn't Biden from Delaware?

Delaware, 1st State.. bottleneck between Bawlimur an' Philly. Spit north- PA. Spit south - MD

Frank4 wrote:

Skibo wrote:

moeron wrote:Years ago, Mc cain joked: " Why is chelsa Clinton so ugly? 'cause Janet Reno is her DAD" So in the arena every thing is NOT off limits. Mccain later said sorry, but ........

Wow this is the first I have heard of this one. I didn't think he was that big of a turd. I really really dislike this guy.

I heard that story awhile back..I was a little stunned by it.

I thought it sounded a little too bizarre to be true. Sadly I found some reports.