Game OFFICIALLY OVER for McCain and Palin!

UAHparrothead · Post by **UAHparrothead** » November 4, 2008 8:47 pm

Wino you know wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:
Wino you know wrote:Elizabeth Dole has lost her bid for re-election to the U.S. Senate from North Carolina to a NOBODY.

My only question to the people of N.C. is

WHY?
She had been trailing for a while... she ranked pretty low in Senate effectiveness.

What finished her, if the projection holds, was a real dirty ad she ran last week which painted
her opponent Kay Hagen as an athiest. It was a classic low blow...and it apparently has backfired.
I know I promised not to do any name caiiling, but those people have GOT to be world class IDIOTS for ousting Sen. Dole.

She was 93rd in effectiveness in the last 6 years, she was in the state 14 days before her first election that and the hate-filled scare tactics done her in

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » November 4, 2008 8:49 pm

Wino you know wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Apologies if this sounds too cliché , Garry.....but you're seeing the times are a'changin' tonight

You're seeing the backlash of just how many others in America, including ME, despise George W. Bush
I get it. (I don't agree that people should HATE President Bush, but I GET it).
However, Elizabeth Dole ISN'T George W. Bush, nor is he on the ticket for any office.
When I see dweebs like AL FRANKEN getting elected, it just convinces me more and more that people are just voting for candidates only because of the "D" after their name and nothing else. VERY ignorant, and VERY uninformed.
HELL, I'm thinking of running as a Democrat from wherever. I'm sure to get elected if THAT'S the only qualification.

You're right...

But in Dole's case, and a few other veteran Conservatives, I really think that in this election cycle, people are just expressing a frustration that just says...
"out with the old... in with the new."
It's like a generational sea change, and for me... it was a big motivator in my decision.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » November 4, 2008 8:52 pm

UAHparrothead wrote:She was 93rd in effectiveness in the last 6 years, she was in the state 14 days before her first election that and the hate-filled scare tactics done her in

Yet the Democrats who were LESS effective than her get re-elected.

She was in N.C. 14 days more than Hillary Clinton was in N.Y. when she was elected there in 2000.

Sorry if I sound cliche, but it seems the only thing that matters these days is the "D" or "R" after their name.
An AXE MURDERER could get elected so long as he runs as a Democrat.

UAHparrothead · Post by **UAHparrothead** » November 4, 2008 8:53 pm

Wino you know wrote:
UAHparrothead wrote:She was 93rd in effectiveness in the last 6 years, she was in the state 14 days before her first election that and the hate-filled scare tactics done her in
Yet the Democrats who were LESS effective than her get re-elected.

She was in N.C. 14 days more than Hillary Clinton was in N.Y. when she was elected there in 2000.

Sorry if I sound cliche, but it seems the only thing that matters these days is the "D" or "R" after their name.
An AXE MURDERER could get elected so long as he runs as a Democrat.

But I think the people were looking at her specifically instead of the Congress as a whole, which I agree completely with you on that one, I really think that "Godless" ad is what cost her the election.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » November 4, 2008 8:54 pm

Lightning Bolt wrote:It's like a generational sea change, and for me... it was a big motivator in my decision.

It's a generational change for YOU.
The people of New Jersey just re-elected their 84-year old Senator.
Guess which party he belongs to?

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » November 4, 2008 8:56 pm

UAHparrothead wrote:But I think the people were looking at her specifically instead of the Congress as a whole, which I agree completely with you on that one, I really think that "Godless" ad is what cost her the election.

I'll agree with YOU that that's probably the case, which re-inforces ANOTHER belief of mine, and that is that Republicans are held accountable for their deeds and actions, while the Democrats aren't.

Tell me, would you REALLY want someone like AL FRANKEN representing you? Really?

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » November 4, 2008 9:04 pm

9:00 PM Eastern

They're close to calling Florida and North Carolina for Obama
and Ohio is already tracking huge blue

nutmeg · Post by **nutmeg** » November 4, 2008 9:05 pm

Wino you know wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Apologies if this sounds too cliché , Garry.....but you're seeing the times are a'changin' tonight

You're seeing the backlash of just how many others in America, including ME, despise George W. Bush
I get it. (I don't agree that people should HATE President Bush, but I GET it).
However, Elizabeth Dole ISN'T George W. Bush, nor is he on the ticket for any office.
When I see dweebs like AL FRANKEN getting elected, it just convinces me more and more that people are just voting for candidates only because of the "D" after their name and nothing else. VERY ignorant, and VERY uninformed.
HELL, I'm thinking of running as a Democrat from wherever. I'm sure to get elected if THAT'S the only qualification.

Garry, Actually I think that Kay Hagan was a well respected state senator for 10 years....so not exactly a nobody...and the folks in NC saw a reason to vote for her. We have to respect their right to do so.

I can guarantee you that you wouldn't be elected for anything in my home town with a D behind your name. In fact there were almost no democrats running for the local offices....The republicans run unchallenged...which is pretty sad. Our Sheriff and prosecutor and several other offices are running unchallenged. Here all you need is the "R" after your name.

The people in NC were at least fortunate enough to have a choice to make.

UAHparrothead · Post by **UAHparrothead** » November 4, 2008 9:08 pm

Wino you know wrote:
UAHparrothead wrote:But I think the people were looking at her specifically instead of the Congress as a whole, which I agree completely with you on that one, I really think that "Godless" ad is what cost her the election.
I'll agree with YOU that that's probably the case, which re-inforces ANOTHER belief of mine, and that is that Republicans are held accountable for their deeds and actions, while the Democrats aren't.

Tell me, would you REALLY want someone like AL FRANKEN representing you? Really?

No, but I didn't vote for Al Franken and I wouldn't vote for him either given the chance.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » November 4, 2008 9:13 pm

Thanks, Nancy & Brad.
Whatever happens, I love you both. Really.

And I'll promise you both (and Brad too) this-if the Democrats still have LESS than 60 seats in the Senate after tonight, I'll be a happy man.
Sorry-but the "check & balance" system of this country is a NECESSITY.

I wouldn't want 60 Republicans there either.

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » November 4, 2008 9:17 pm

Wino you know wrote:Thanks, Nancy & Brad.
Whatever happens, I love you both. Really.

And I'll promise you both (and Brad too) this-if the Democrats still have LESS than 60 seats in the Senate after tonight, I'll be a happy man.
Sorry-but the "check & balance" system of this country is a NECESSITY.

I wouldn't want 60 Republicans there either.

I'll second that

and in the House, I'm not a big fan of Nancy Pelosi, either

UAHparrothead · Post by **UAHparrothead** » November 4, 2008 9:17 pm

Wino you know wrote:Thanks, Nancy & Brad.
Whatever happens, I love you both. Really.

And I'll promise you both (and Brad too) this-if the Democrats still have LESS than 60 seats in the Senate after tonight, I'll be a happy man.
Sorry-but the "check & balance" system of this country is a NECESSITY.

I wouldn't want 60 Republicans there either.

I'll drink to that

nutmeg · Post by **nutmeg** » November 4, 2008 9:18 pm

Wino you know wrote:Thanks, Nancy & Brad.
Whatever happens, I love you both. Really.

And I'll promise you both (and Brad too) this-if the Democrats still have LESS than 60 seats in the Senate after tonight, I'll be a happy man.
Sorry-but the "check & balance" system of this country is a NECESSITY.

I wouldn't want 60 Republicans there either.

((Garry)) LYMI!

Dezdmona · Post by **Dezdmona** » November 4, 2008 9:20 pm

Fox just called Ohio for Obama...
If that's the case this show is over.

Glorfindel7 · Post by **Glorfindel7** » November 4, 2008 9:22 pm

Dezdmona wrote:Fox just called Ohio for Obama...
If that's the case this show is over.

I'm sorry but sometimes the news networks just can't "make up their mind" so it should be really interesting to see exactly how many of those predictions come true

I'm probably more interested in the Congress seats than the Presidency myself....I think some people are thinking "payback" for stupid decisions made by their senators and representatives in the past couple of weeks.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » November 4, 2008 9:23 pm

Dezdmona wrote:Fox just called Ohio for Obama...
If that's the case this show is over.

The folks at Team Sarah have their panties in a bunch about Fox calling so many states for Obama so early.

Seems a little strange even to me to call them so early. Are they calling them based on votes or the exit polls?

Glorfindel7 · Post by **Glorfindel7** » November 4, 2008 9:24 pm

buffettbride wrote:
Dezdmona wrote:Fox just called Ohio for Obama...
If that's the case this show is over.
The folks at Team Sarah have their panties in a bunch about Fox calling so many states for Obama so early.

Seems a little strange even to me to call them so early. Are they calling them based on votes or the exit polls?

Usually "exit polls".... They wait until the polls close so that they can release their results.....
(But while those can be accurate, there's always that chance that some people who vote the OTHER way refuse to fill one of those out... Have you seen how many questions are on it???

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » November 4, 2008 9:25 pm

OHIO GOES TO OBAMA!!!

Essentially that is checkmate, BN phriends

Dezdmona · Post by **Dezdmona** » November 4, 2008 9:27 pm

buffettbride wrote:
Dezdmona wrote:Fox just called Ohio for Obama...
If that's the case this show is over.
The folks at Team Sarah have their panties in a bunch about Fox calling so many states for Obama so early.

Seems a little strange even to me to call them so early. Are they calling them based on votes or the exit polls?

They call based on votes, % of precincts reporting

They USED to make early predictions based on exit polling, but not this year.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » November 4, 2008 9:28 pm

Lightning Bolt wrote: I'll second that
and in the House, I'm not a big fan of Nancy Pelosi, either

Well, I was never OVERLY crazy about McCain, but I just COULDN'T vote for Obama.

Just keep their Senate membership less than 60. That's all I ask at this point.