Game OFFICIALLY OVER for McCain and Palin!

[johnson2113]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have. A very appropriate quote that works here, "If you hate the rich then quit your damn job go to work for a poor person".

[kitty]

GAME OVER for McSame and Mary Moose!!!!

Talk about beating a dead horse??? How mant times do you need to make the same lame joke in one post???

[Coconuts]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

Would you want the job? I wouldn't, ever, but especially now. I especially wouldn't want to have to campaign for two years.

[LIPH]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

Would you want the job?

No, but I'm a self-centered a$$hole and public service is the last thing on my mind.

[krusin1]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

Would you want the job? I wouldn't, ever, but especially now. I especially wouldn't want to have to campaign for two years.

You know, I don't/wouldn't want the job either, and I bet that holds true for pretty much everybody here. Problem is...



"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." ~ Plato

[Skibo]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

[C-Dawg]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

I agree.....if you can help, you should....but in your own way and at your own level.....the problem I've always had with the Democrats is they always feel they know how to spend my money better than I do which is BS. I have no problem helping my neighbor, as I can see he needs help, and the money, effort etc are genuinely needed. I take issue with blindly giving money in a tax increase to pay for programs someone else feels is important. No one has the right to tell me how to spend my hard earned cash except me, and that is probably the single most important reason I tend to not vote Democrat

[bumper]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

certainly not labeling you an idiot, that was an idiotic question.

[johnson2113]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

Republicans don't believe in suffering, but we also believe in self responsibility.

I believe in charity and freely give, but I don't trust the bureaucrats to distribute my money the way charities do. We help those in our own community, that we know need the help and and will get the help.

[LIPH]

Far be it from me to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think I detect a touch of sarcasm in Skibo's posts.

[Skibo]

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

Republicans don't believe in suffering, but we also believe in self responsibility.

I believe in charity and freely give, but I don't trust the bureaucrats to distribute my money the way charities do. We help those in our own community, that we know need the help and and will get the help.

Maybe you haven't seen many of my posts, but actually we agree on this point. I was needling you with my first response then you just made it fun.

[Skibo]

Far be it from me to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think I detect a touch of sarcasm in Skibo's posts.

I see someone's sarcasm detector is a quality device that is working.

[buffettbride]

Far be it from me to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think I detect a touch of sarcasm in Skibo's posts.

I see someone's sarcasm detector is a quality device that is working.

Maybe you should go make out in the sarcasm closet.

[FunkHouse9]

I agree.....if you can help, you should....but in your own way and at your own level.

The thing about that, as it seems to me, is that people tend not to help out, despite their own level. Those with more money spend more on themselves but don't give proportionately more to help. So, the "in your own way" frequently ends up being "in little or no way." I'm saying this about everyone, not just Reps or Dems. At least with the government managing aid, in some form or another, everybody shares the responsibility to help lift those who are down. If the lowest income people give the minimum, and thus, everybody can give the minimum, then the minimum is about all we're going to have to work with.

[RinglingRingling]

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

I agree.....if you can help, you should....but in your own way and at your own level.....the problem I've always had with the Democrats is they always feel they know how to spend my money better than I do which is BS. I have no problem helping my neighbor, as I can see he needs help, and the money, effort etc are genuinely needed. I take issue with blindly giving money in a tax increase to pay for programs someone else feels is important. No one has the right to tell me how to spend my hard earned cash except me, and that is probably the single most important reason I tend to not vote Democrat

you don't think the Repubs do the same thing? managing to double an already-staggering national debt in 8 years thru a combination of cut taxes and increased spending hardly strikes me as the party of fiscal responsibility. (and before it gets said that Dems control the Congress, prior to 2006 that was not the case. Shrub and the Repubs had free reign/rein of both the Exec and Legislative branches for 6 years, and free rein of the Legislative after 1994. there isn't anywhere to really rest the blame for the current situation other than firmly on shoulders of those who created it. and that, sadly, is mostly Repub)

[12vmanRick]

the poor in this country have been taught the more they whine and less they do the more money they will get but even when the government throws your tax money at problem (which isn't solving anything) the poor spend it on cell phones, cigarettes, designer clothes, alcohol etc. because they think that is their "right" but at the same time won't spend a dime on any type of insurance because they know that the same government with YOUR TAX MONEY again and again and again even if it means STEALING your Social Security money to do it.

[Frank4]

the poor in this country have been taught the more they whine and less they do the more money they will get but even when the government throws your tax money at problem (which isn't solving anything) the poor spend it on cell phones, cigarettes, designer clothes, alcohol etc. because they think that is their "right" but at the same time won't spend a dime on any type of insurance because they know that the same government with YOUR TAX MONEY again and again and again even if it means STEALING your Social Security money to do it.

That's a bit harsh and quite a generalization....for every person you just described their are lots of folks that work a couple of jobs and don't ask for pity or handouts or think they have some sort of God given right.

[12vmanRick]

the poor in this country have been taught the more they whine and less they do the more money they will get but even when the government throws your tax money at problem (which isn't solving anything) the poor spend it on cell phones, cigarettes, designer clothes, alcohol etc. because they think that is their "right" but at the same time won't spend a dime on any type of insurance because they know that the same government with YOUR TAX MONEY again and again and again even if it means STEALING your Social Security money to do it.

That's a bit harsh and quite a generalization....for every person you just described their are lots of folks that work a couple of jobs and don't ask for pity or handouts or think they have some sort of God given right.

oh well, that's how I feel about it. If they are going to steal our money right out of our pocket though, I had rather them give to people unwilling to work than send one penny out of this country and especially to nations that produce oil that just keep raising the prices.

[Dezdmona]

I believe in charity and freely give, but I don't trust the bureaucrats to distribute my money the way charities do. We help those in our own community, that we know need the help and and will get the help.

All sarcasm aside.
Having worked for non-profits all of my professional career, I believe in local giving. Cash contributions, in-kind donations, and volunteer time are the lifeblood of any non-profit.
Sadly, there are lots good causes and not enough people that believe in supporting their local non-profits.

However, we could not have survived without our Government Grant.
It was the largest single source of income we had.
While it came with incredible strings attached, we would have been out of business without it.

Rick: I can't speak to what individuals who receive money directly from the Government do with it, but the non-profits I worked for were good stewards of the funds they received...clients didn't receive any designer duds from our agency, in fact any clothes they got from us were donated from the community.
Dental care means the treatment for a toothache is the tooth is pulled rather than filled or a root canal being done...it's cheaper.
I could go on, but I won't.

Steps off soapbox.

[jackiesic]

Income redistribution = fairness????

You got a problem with that?

A very big one.

You must hate poor people.

Hate poor people? No - but my family (4 generations) has worked damn hard to save what we have. We lived with in our means - small homes, drove vehicles 10 years - no credit cards until we could afford the luxuries we know have.

So you have been successful congratulations, there are many that aren't as competent as you. It seems a little harsh that you would allow those people to suffer when you can afford to help them.

I'll tell you what, they can raise my taxes after Charlie Rangel steps down as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee (has he yet?), pays his taxes, and pays his parking garage fee in D.C