Game OFFICIALLY OVER for McCain and Palin!

[sonofabeach]

yeah I was being serious. But maybe it's from seeing posts from the same people over and over that just make me feel that way. And no Rick I'm not that far left...At least I don't think I am.

[Wino you know]

yeah I was being serious. But maybe it's from seeing posts from the same people over and over that just make me feel that way. And no Rick I'm not that far left...At least I don't think I am.

What I actually MEANT to say was "SHIRLEY YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS?"

[rumdrinks]

yeah I was being serious. But maybe it's from seeing posts from the same people over and over that just make me feel that way. And no Rick I'm not that far left...At least I don't think I am.

What I actually MEANT to say was "SHIRLEY YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS?"

yes he is, and stop calling him Shirley.

[LIPH]

Warren Buffett maintains that there is something wrong with our tax system when his taxes work out to be 17% of his income and his office admin is paying 39% of her income. According to him, he has the lowest rate in his office of over 100 people with the vast majority paying in excess of 30%.

I'm not an accountant or a tax attorney but to the best of my knowledge there's nothing in the internal revenue code that prevents you from paying more tax than you owe. If Warren Buffett and other rich people really feel their tax rate is too low they can have their accountants write a check to the Treasury Department. I wonder if any of them do?

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

that is why I TRY to go to all of them and because BN seems to lean SO far left overall

Funny how we all view things differently Rick. I always thought it leaned to the right.

You're NOT serious, are you, Michael?

that was my thought too when I read that post

And mine

[Wino you know]

I'm not an accountant or a tax attorney but to the best of my knowledge there's nothing in the internal revenue code that prevents you from paying more tax than you owe. If Warren Buffett and other rich people really feel their tax rate is too low they can have their accountants write a check to the Treasury Department. I wonder if any of them do?

President Bush said that about the Democrats at his last State of the Union Address-that if they felt they were under-taxed, they should feel free to send more of their money to the treasury.
None of those dweebs budged, showing what true phonies they are.
How easy it is to spend SOMEONE ELSE'S money.

[Marnin Grita Guy]

that is why I TRY to go to all of them and because BN seems to lean SO far left overall

Funny how we all view things differently Rick. I always thought it leaned to the right.

I try not to lean to the left, or the right, or forward, or backward.

Either of these actions could lead to falling or even worse spilling

my ginormous margarita.

[rumdrinks]

How easy it is to spend SOMEONE ELSE'S money.

Just like our illustrious Congress did today....spending about 1 trillion of OUR money...700 billion for the bailout and a couple of hundred billion of pork to bribe Congressmen to vote FOR the plan..

[Wino you know]

How easy it is to spend SOMEONE ELSE'S money.

Just like our illustrious Congress did today....spending about 1 trillion of OUR money...700 billion for the bailout and a couple of hundred billion of pork to bribe Congressmen to vote FOR the plan..

YES, SIR! You got it right on.

That's why those bafoons voted against it the other day-there was no pork involved for THEIR little pet projects. But when it's added, they jump right on the band wagon of spending OUR money.
I don't know what p*sses me off more-the fact that they actually passed it, or the fact that damn near all of them will be re-elected by their clueless constituents.

[diverg]

How easy it is to spend SOMEONE ELSE'S money.

Just like our illustrious Congress did today....spending about 1 trillion of OUR money...700 billion for the bailout and a couple of hundred billion of pork to bribe Congressmen to vote FOR the plan..

YES, SIR! You got it right on.

That's why those bafoons voted against it the other day-there was no pork involved for THEIR little pet projects. But when it's added, they jump right on the band wagon of spending OUR money.
I don't know what p*sses me off more-the fact that they actually passed it, or the fact that damn near all of them will be re-elected by their clueless constituents.

Gary, unfortunately its business as usual in Washington D.C.

[Wino you know]

Gary, unfortunately its business as usual in Washington D.C.

Absolutely.
But when you listen to people p*ss & moan about what a bunch of dweebs the dweebs in congress are (as evidenced by their 9% approval rating) and THEN turn right around and re-elect those C.S.ers, it makes you want to bash their hollow heads together.

"CONGRESS S--KS, BUT MY GUY/GAL IS OKAY."
Talk about a bunch of elitist S.O.B.s

And did you ever wonder just WHO the hell these 9% clowns are who DO approve the job congress is doing?
I wonder if they're even LEGAL citizens.

[moog]

None of us should vote, this way we can blame the people who did. After all, no matter who wins, there will be complaints in 3 years.

I watched 60 percent of the debate, not enough mention of science nor R&D. Remember when the USA was good at R&D? So, I changed the channel to "House". I like his attitude.

[FunkHouse9]

None of us should vote, this way we can blame the people who did. After all, no matter who wins, there will be complaints in 3 years.

I really think that only those who vote should have a right to complain. If you want to keep your mouth shut on election day, you should be keeping your mouth shut for the next 4 years.

[ScarletB]

Gary, unfortunately its business as usual in Washington D.C.

Absolutely.
But when you listen to people p*ss & moan about what a bunch of dweebs the dweebs in congress are (as evidenced by their 9% approval rating) and THEN turn right around and re-elect those C.S.ers, it makes you want to bash their hollow heads together.

"CONGRESS S--KS, BUT MY GUY/GAL IS OKAY."
Talk about a bunch of elitist S.O.B.s

And did you ever wonder just WHO the hell these 9% clowns are who DO approve the job congress is doing?
I wonder if they're even LEGAL citizens.

One of our senators (Bernie Sanders) actually DID do what he was asked to by a flood of emails, he voted no both times. Our congressman voted no the first time but lost his nerve the second time out. The other senator never found his balls in the first place, although GENERALLY all three of them vote the way their constituency thinks, which is why they keep getting re-elected.

[alphabits]

that is why I TRY to go to all of them and because BN seems to lean SO far left overall

Funny how we all view things differently Rick. I always thought it leaned to the right.

You're NOT serious, are you, Michael?

that was my thought too when I read that post

And mine

Geez, who knew BN had such an incredible left-wing bias?

Every political type discussion I see around here seems to be about equally divided between the "tastes great" and the "less filling" groups. I seem to recall a poll (maybe a couple years ago) about political affiliation and, although my memory may be faulty, I thought it turned out that Rebublicans actually outnumbered Democrats here. But then again what do I know ..... I'm an independent and I'm not out looking for vast right-wing or left-wing conspiracies. I just try to vote based on common sense and facts rather than misleading TV ads, internet propaganda or whether the candidate has an "R" or a "D" after their name.

[alphabits]

Here's an interesting post I found:


Dear Friends,

The next few months are going to be politically intriguing ones for us all. It is natural that we will all have our opinions and wish to express them. During all of this, the mods hope to keep this board civil and friendly. So please know that we will not be tolerating anything but civil behavior. Any post with name calling, the use of profanity (even if it is typed using symbols), or post where it is perceived that the person is "yelling" (using all caps has long been known to portray "yelling or shouting" on the internet), will be subject to deleting. Let 's play nice and enjoy what makes our country unique and special - the ability to debate freely, and the ability to take part in the voting process.

Thank you

The mods....

I meant to mention this, too. Why the heck was the title of this thread allowed to remain as-is? Or is the name calling prohibition related only to other posters and not to the candidates themselves?
But then, what should I expect when alleged political discourse in this country is more aimed at demeaning or degrading your opponent than actually discussing the issues.

[aeroparrot]

Warren Buffett maintains that there is something wrong with our tax system when his taxes work out to be 17% of his income and his office admin is paying 39% of her income. According to him, he has the lowest rate in his office of over 100 people with the vast majority paying in excess of 30%.

I'm not an accountant or a tax attorney but to the best of my knowledge there's nothing in the internal revenue code that prevents you from paying more tax than you owe. If Warren Buffett and other rich people really feel their tax rate is too low they can have their accountants write a check to the Treasury Department. I wonder if any of them do?

Probably not. I know a couple of people who own businesses and say they are liberal leaning and that everyone has to pay their fair share on income taxes. Where do they set up their business? Yep, in TAX FREE New Hampshire. If they were so concerned that people should pay their fair share, they would have either worked to change the laws of New Hampshire to get an income tax or move to a state that has one and pay their fair share.

[aeroparrot]

factcheck is NOT a fair and balanced site nor do they tell the facts, they tell them the way they want to see them and lean Democrat.

http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx ... 574&Type=1

Is there anything out there that is truly "fair and balanced" though? I find it hard to believe that if factcheck were so unbalanced, both campaigns would be using it to support their statements. Trying to be objective about it, to me, it seems to be predominately fair to me.

From what I've seen, it looks as though McCain has misrepresented factcheck.org when using it to support his campaign.

you are right, and if you go back to all my posts that has been my main thing I have said, both sides lie, both sides cheat, both sides steal and every site I can find puts out something of their view.

It's sad that even the most unbiased sources are still biased. Nobody can or will truly tell it like it is.

That's why I don't trust polls until the one that counts. You can word any question for polls to get the answer you want.

[AdamBomb8]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

No. McCain and Palin are not the best we can come up with.

That's why you should vote Democrat.

Let me rephrase the question - are these 4 really the best we can come up with?

I watched a few seconds here and there, but I can't stand listening to these politicians blow their hot air at us, actually believing what they say, when we all know its the same crap every four years. They p*** down our backs and try to tell us it's raining. New garbage in, old garbage out and nothing ever changes, at least not for the better.

[aeroparrot]

I still think that the tax rate should change to be 17 % for everyone. Before anyone starts complaining that that won't be fair. Think of it this way: A person making $1 million dollars will pay $170,000 in taxes. A person making $50,000 will pay $8,500. The richer person will still pay more in taxes than the poorer person. Oh, plus get rid of all deductions. You pay the taxes on the gross amount of your pay.