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I was just wondering if anyone knew if they had rebuilt/reopened the Firedog Saloon yet?? I have searched the web but cannot find a thing indicating that it has been rebuilt. If anyone has any information please let me know. Just curious [/b]

I was there last month and I guess this says it all - I can't recall seeing what happened to it. I'll probably be by there somewhat soon, the next few weeks. The last I saw it, it was still just a shell of itself. Then I thought it was gone.

I can find out because I know people that live in Bay St Louis. Speaking of which, St Louis Bay got some decent storm surge from Gustav but from what I saw no one got flooded.

Thanks for the info. I was just wondering. Ever since Bama Breeze came out I looked it up and saw all the pictures they had posted. It was very sad. I just wondered if they ever got a chance to rebuild. I hope they do some day I would love to visit.

Well if this helps then it might encourage you to take a trip - on the Bay side of where the Fire Dog was were buildings, boardwalks, landscaping, etc...and it's all GONE. I was out there a few weeks before Katrina hit. When I went back it was just jaw dropping. It still is. It will be for a long time. A lot of wind flew through there and a lot of water rolled through there. Waveland got a 41.6 foot storm surge. BSL got basically 34-38. A friend of mine, her house is 27 feet above sea level, the first surge went into her house, the second surge went through her house and the third surge went over her house. And she's a block off the bay. Another friend of mine, they got 2.6 feet of water in their house, their house is 2.6 feet off the ground and their elevation is 29 feet above sea level. They live a good ways in.

You'll read about the official storm surge for Katrina being around 28 feet or whatever but it was up in the high 30s, low 40s in that area of Mississippi. There are two things at work with the NHC - they tend to seemingly over estimate storms when they don't actually have facts and are going strictly on the pressure, which is not accurate (they say Wilma is the 'strongest hurricane in the Atlantic Basin' because her pressure was 882 but wind wise she's still a bit below a couple of other storms, which to me means they were stronger - wihch they were) and then they really under estimate/report what actually happened when it was really really bad. Like Charley. Charley is still listed as a 4 but I have friends that live in Punta Gorda and the local news reported sustained winds of 160 plus mph - that's a bit stronger than Andrew.

I can't believe that 3 years later it is still in shambles down there. What a disgrace. Do you think they will ever rebuild the area? I don't know what I would do. I would want to rebuild but I would also be very scared of another hurricane that it almost wouldn't be worth it especially if you don't get any help when there is damage.

Isn't it funny how the gov. can come up with SO much money to bailout financial companies but they can't seem to find that money for natural disasters and the people that really need it.

Gov. Bailey is in W's pocket, so to speak. MS got some help when LA didn't - which is partially due to the people running LA (whatever her name was and Nagin) but the people in those areas, they aren't whistling while they work. There are people there and houses there and life is going on, it's just there is still a lot of damage and in some places ZERO rebuilding, it's still a wasteland. You don't think these things get taken care of in a few months like a Wal-Mart being built do you? It's not Disneyland. People obviously, from things I've read over the past 3 years, seem to think it's just like a little storm front that comes through and knocks a few trees down and it's cleaned up in a week. Of course, those are also the people that say Why would you want to live there? And where they live, there are just as many if not worse in other ways kinds of things that happen. The point is - they still have ZERO idea of what it takes. Why would people want to live in Iowa when they know it's gonna flood when they live in a river basin? 100 year flood my ass. The last one that did almost as much damage was in 1993. There was some flooding last year. Some hundred years. That kind of lingo is no longer viable. It means nothing.

Although that area of MS has been battered between the big storms (Elena, Georges), they don't get plowed every year. There is no 'due' with hurricanes. Just because you haven't gotten hit in eons doesn't mean you're due. Nor does it mean you'll get it again if you do happen to get it a lot, like the Keys. It just works the way it works. Nature doesn't keep count of who got hit when and how many times.

The storms that have essentially but not completely destroyed the MS Gulf Coast have been the two most damaging storms to hit the US in terms of what they did (storm surge, coverage of damage, amount of damage, amount of 'flooding'). Camile was very small but was incendiary, Katrina was huge and lumbering. Imagine what would have happened if Katrina had Camille's 190 mph sustained winds with 220 mph gusts at the size she was. The surge would have been closer to 60 feet and a lot more would have really gotten completely utterly totally wiped off the planet. As in there would be ZERO left to understand. And New Orleans would have really suffered (even still though New Orleans wasn't technically hit by the hurricane) as well as everywhere else that did - it could all have been monstrously worse than it was/is.

That could still happen. Until then, there's still a lot of work to be done. It will be years until it's done. And you're right. Imagine if the US gov were to stop sending all that money to Israel and spent it on their own people. Yet alone the so called war. Yet they can bail out a bunch of idiots without a blink of an eye.

I'm not going to go on about how completely worthless the US gov is and how they are totally a non-existent entity in terms of reality, the people of the Gulf Coast have to take care of themselves. And some of the very same people who love to come down to the Gulf Coast and party and eat and etc...and leave all their trash in New Orleans are the very same people who are full of b u l l s h i t about bothering to rebuild. They either live in California and Iowa and other disaster prone areas that have no warning or they should and they should all stay where they are and eat their corn and their tasteless bar-b-que sauce on everything and enjoy their bland lives and leave us alone. I didn't laugh at them when they flooded from an actual flood. But their comments afterwords made me feel like they didn't flood enough.

So be it.

Don't know how up to date this is:

http://www.firedogsaloon.com/