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i have been watching this show since it started and i'm hooked. however, i didn't see the first few shows this season so i don't know how the whole senerio with don being threatened/blackmailed by campbell (?) ended.

or his old sect'y who got preggers and then had to give her baby to her sister...???

also, where is don headed ( and who is there, his brother??) since he isn't going back to the city..or his wife


just wondering

Yeppers, we watch it, but my husband moreso than me.

I was coming in here to say, Yes, but we missed the all the shows before this past Sunday and felt kind of lost on everything, and I see we're in the same boat. I was like, "wasn't she fat before? That's right, she was pregnant!" Now she's all skinny and everyone is hitting on her.

I loved the first season. The start of the second was a little disjointed since it was 18 months later. They did a little flashback thing on the baby, seems that she pulled the psycho thing I am assuming declared unfit. Don showed up and "set her straight". The blackmail thing ended last season then Don called the bluff. Don's brother killed himself last season. I missed last Sunday still need to watch it.

I feel the stories aren't as good this season but I am so hooked on the filming and atmosphere that I could watch the show with the sound off and still enjoy it.

Skibo wrote:I loved the first season. The start of the second was a little disjointed since it was 18 months later. They did a little flashback thing on the baby, seems that she pulled the psycho thing I am assuming declared unfit. Don showed up and "set her straight". The blackmail thing ended last season then Don called the bluff. Don's brother killed himself last season. I missed last Sunday still need to watch it.

I feel the stories aren't as good this season but I am so hooked on the filming and atmosphere that I could watch the show with the sound off and still enjoy it.

i saw the blackmail and don calling the bluff but i thought it wasn't over. i may have missed the part about his brother killing himself. don had told him not to show up anymore, correct??

i did see a flashback to the baby's birth and the nurse asking her is she wanted to hold him. that's it. didn't see when don showed up and "straightened her out" so he knows about the baby??

Skibo wrote:I loved the first season. The start of the second was a little disjointed since it was 18 months later. They did a little flashback thing on the baby, seems that she pulled the psycho thing I am assuming declared unfit. Don showed up and "set her straight". The blackmail thing ended last season then Don called the bluff. Don's brother killed himself last season. I missed last Sunday still need to watch it.

I feel the stories aren't as good this season but I am so hooked on the filming and atmosphere that I could watch the show with the sound off and still enjoy it.

Thanks, Skibo!

I agree about the atmosphere. In last Sunday's episode, they were standing by a swimming pool in their skinny ties, holding little cigarettes, Don in a gray hat, with those tall skinny evergreen trees behind them, it looked like a photo of Frank Sinatra from the early 60s only in color.

MacPhin wrote: i saw the blackmail and don calling the bluff but i thought it wasn't over. i may have missed the part about his brother killing himself. don had told him not to show up anymore, correct??

i did see a flashback to the baby's birth and the nurse asking her is she wanted to hold him. that's it. didn't see when don showed up and "straightened her out" so he knows about the baby??

I thought I remember his brother hanging himself. Checked the recaps and couldn't find it. Wife is in an important meeting and can't be bothered by important stuff like this.

Don knows about the baby. That is why Don was able to call Peggy when he had the car accident. He knew she would keep quiet because he knew some dirt on her.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/

carolinagirl wrote: Thanks, Skibo!

I agree about the atmosphere. In last Sunday's episode, they were standing by a swimming pool in their skinny ties, holding little cigarettes, Don in a gray hat, with those tall skinny evergreen trees behind them, it looked like a photo of Frank Sinatra from the early 60s only in color.

My wife swears she is getting lung cancer just watching the show.

Skibo wrote:

carolinagirl wrote: Thanks, Skibo!

I agree about the atmosphere. In last Sunday's episode, they were standing by a swimming pool in their skinny ties, holding little cigarettes, Don in a gray hat, with those tall skinny evergreen trees behind them, it looked like a photo of Frank Sinatra from the early 60s only in color.

My wife swears she is getting lung cancer just watching the show.

There's a lot of heavy smoke hanging in the air in some of those shots, you never know!

Skibo wrote:

MacPhin wrote: i saw the blackmail and don calling the bluff but i thought it wasn't over. i may have missed the part about his brother killing himself. don had told him not to show up anymore, correct??

i did see a flashback to the baby's birth and the nurse asking her is she wanted to hold him. that's it. didn't see when don showed up and "straightened her out" so he knows about the baby??

I thought I remember his brother hanging himself. Checked the recaps and couldn't find it. Wife is in an important meeting and can't be bothered by important stuff like this.

Don knows about the baby. That is why Don was able to call Peggy when he had the car accident. He knew she would keep quiet because he knew some dirt on her.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/

don was in a car accident?? in his new caddy?

Skibo wrote:

MacPhin wrote: i saw the blackmail and don calling the bluff but i thought it wasn't over. i may have missed the part about his brother killing himself. don had told him not to show up anymore, correct??

i did see a flashback to the baby's birth and the nurse asking her is she wanted to hold him. that's it. didn't see when don showed up and "straightened her out" so he knows about the baby??

I thought I remember his brother hanging himself. Checked the recaps and couldn't find it. Wife is in an important meeting and can't be bothered by important stuff like this.

Don knows about the baby. That is why Don was able to call Peggy when he had the car accident. He knew she would keep quiet because he knew some dirt on her.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/madmen/

The brother did hang himself

Don's real name is Dick Whitman. Don Draper was his commanding officer when he was in the Army in Korea. When the real Draper was killed, Don assumed his identity

I love Mad Men ... haven't missed an episode.

I think Don has been drugged by those "jet setters" ... can't imagine where the Dick Whitman phone call is going to lead.

Love the show. Love the writing.

There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

Chuck Norris does not watch TV... he makes it.

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

He is definately a con artist in a factual sense; he could be viewed as a guy trying to find himself as he is living his con. He took someone's identity for whatever reason we don't know. How a miltiary guy who sold used cars got him self a partnership worth 500,000 dollars in a Madison Avenue Advertising firm, I am guessing, is also a con or part of the lie from his new identity. Everyone on that show is shady. As for his wife's age, yes I know people got married earlier but Betty could've been pregnant in her teens (not unheard of; of course) with her 8 year old daughter who she shares the same level of maturity with. And whats up with Peggy! Bad as$ indeed.

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

He is definately a con artist in a factual sense; he could be viewed as a guy trying to find himself as he is living his con. He took someone's identity for whatever reason we don't know. How a miltiary guy who sold used cars got him self a partnership worth 500,000 dollars in a Madison Avenue Advertising firm, I am guessing, is also a con or part of the lie from his new identity. Everyone on that show is shady. As for his wife's age, yes I know people got married earlier but Betty could've been pregnant in her teens (not unheard of; of course) with her 8 year old daughter who she shares the same level of maturity with. And whats up with Peggy! Bad as$ indeed.

Well we do have some idea as to why Don took on the identity of Don Draper. If you saw the episode with his brother, it's implied they were abused and neglected as kids, and the only reason Don escaped it was that he went into the Army.

If you take it a step further, Don still realizes that while he might have "escaped" for now, when he is discharged, he will have to go back to whatever miserable life he had before. When Lt Draper is killed, it gives him the golden chance if you will to make a clean break from the past

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

He is definately a con artist in a factual sense; he could be viewed as a guy trying to find himself as he is living his con. He took someone's identity for whatever reason we don't know. How a miltiary guy who sold used cars got him self a partnership worth 500,000 dollars in a Madison Avenue Advertising firm, I am guessing, is also a con or part of the lie from his new identity. Everyone on that show is shady. As for his wife's age, yes I know people got married earlier but Betty could've been pregnant in her teens (not unheard of; of course) with her 8 year old daughter who she shares the same level of maturity with. And whats up with Peggy! Bad as$ indeed.

Well we do have some idea as to why Don took on the identity of Don Draper. If you saw the episode with his brother, it's implied they were abused and neglected as kids, and the only reason Don escaped it was that he went into the Army.

If you take it a step further, Don still realizes that while he might have "escaped" for now, when he is discharged, he will have to go back to whatever miserable life he had before. When Lt Draper is killed, it gives him the golden chance if you will to make a clean break from the past

The "con" is justified. But Don is still living a gigantic lie. I think that he loved the life he made for himself but recently he has been looking around and he doesn't like where he is: the office phoniness, the lying, manipulation, his snotty boring juvenile wife, the money, the affairs, the dinner parties. He seemed much happier, I felt, out in California under his old name not having to put the show on for his corporate "con" life or the model he used his fake "con" name into marrying. How else does a guy who has his entire life set up within a gigantic lie score a Partnership worth 500,000$ at the time (a 1,000,000 today . . . ) and a model wife. He knows it is all a lie. He doesn't like where he is.

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

He is definately a con artist in a factual sense; he could be viewed as a guy trying to find himself as he is living his con. He took someone's identity for whatever reason we don't know. How a miltiary guy who sold used cars got him self a partnership worth 500,000 dollars in a Madison Avenue Advertising firm, I am guessing, is also a con or part of the lie from his new identity. Everyone on that show is shady. As for his wife's age, yes I know people got married earlier but Betty could've been pregnant in her teens (not unheard of; of course) with her 8 year old daughter who she shares the same level of maturity with. And whats up with Peggy! Bad as$ indeed.

Well we do have some idea as to why Don took on the identity of Don Draper. If you saw the episode with his brother, it's implied they were abused and neglected as kids, and the only reason Don escaped it was that he went into the Army.

If you take it a step further, Don still realizes that while he might have "escaped" for now, when he is discharged, he will have to go back to whatever miserable life he had before. When Lt Draper is killed, it gives him the golden chance if you will to make a clean break from the past

The "con" is justified. But Don is still living a gigantic lie. I think that he loved the life he made for himself but recently he has been looking around and he doesn't like where he is: the office phoniness, the lying, manipulation, his snotty boring juvenile wife, the money, the affairs, the dinner parties. He seemed much happier, I felt, out in California under his old name not having to put the show on for his corporate "con" life or the model he used his fake "con" name into marrying. How else does a guy who has his entire life set up within a gigantic lie score a Partnership worth 500,000$ at the time (a 1,000,000 today . . . ) and a model wife. He knows it is all a lie. He doesn't like where he is.

I agree with you to a point

I think he is miserable as Don. I think he also hates being Dick.

I'm very interested to see where this all goes

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Hooray Beer! wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:There are some serious questions about some of the characters on that show. Like how old is Don's wife? 20? Looks like Don is a con artist going under, yet another, assumed name out in California.

Betty, Don's wife, is said to have been a model after college, so she is at least 24. Remember folks got married a lot younger then

And I don't seem Don as a con artist, I see him as someone struggling to find out who he really is, and what makes him really happy

He is definately a con artist in a factual sense; he could be viewed as a guy trying to find himself as he is living his con. He took someone's identity for whatever reason we don't know. How a miltiary guy who sold used cars got him self a partnership worth 500,000 dollars in a Madison Avenue Advertising firm, I am guessing, is also a con or part of the lie from his new identity. Everyone on that show is shady. As for his wife's age, yes I know people got married earlier but Betty could've been pregnant in her teens (not unheard of; of course) with her 8 year old daughter who she shares the same level of maturity with. And whats up with Peggy! Bad as$ indeed.

Well we do have some idea as to why Don took on the identity of Don Draper. If you saw the episode with his brother, it's implied they were abused and neglected as kids, and the only reason Don escaped it was that he went into the Army.

If you take it a step further, Don still realizes that while he might have "escaped" for now, when he is discharged, he will have to go back to whatever miserable life he had before. When Lt Draper is killed, it gives him the golden chance if you will to make a clean break from the past

The "con" is justified. But Don is still living a gigantic lie. I think that he loved the life he made for himself but recently he has been looking around and he doesn't like where he is: the office phoniness, the lying, manipulation, his snotty boring juvenile wife, the money, the affairs, the dinner parties. He seemed much happier, I felt, out in California under his old name not having to put the show on for his corporate "con" life or the model he used his fake "con" name into marrying. How else does a guy who has his entire life set up within a gigantic lie score a Partnership worth 500,000$ at the time (a 1,000,000 today . . . ) and a model wife. He knows it is all a lie. He doesn't like where he is.

I agree with you to a point

I think he is miserable as Don. I think he also hates being Dick.

I'm very interested to see where this all goes

On a side note, it does seem that the majority of the women on the show are becoming more liberated (Peggy . . . . that other guys African American wife - I forget their names - - - and Trudy with the adoption thing speaking her mind) or they want to become more liberated like Joan seeing Peggy's success who put her entire future into the choice of staying a secretary or marrying an abusive doctor (the stereo typical dream marriage for a women like Joan until the incident in Don's office - yikes!). The men on the show don't seem to know how to deal with it. Its like the women are moving up but ethically and independently and the men are staying in the drinking all day - do nothing lifestyle that is simply not fullfilling.

in an episode during the first season Don's wife stated she was 24.