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Bar Stool Economics

Posted: November 1, 2008 7:11 pm
by Migration Michelle
Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.



The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.

But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'



They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.



And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).

The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.



'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.

It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got' 'That's true!!'

shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

Posted: November 1, 2008 7:16 pm
by Lightning Bolt
This was posted some time ago, in another of the political threads
and the conclusion was this:

The 10th man won't leave!
The only way he made that money in the first place was by screwing over the over nine for years before that! :lol:

Posted: November 1, 2008 7:19 pm
by flyboy55
Bar Stool Economics? I think you're on to something here. Maybe call it the BSE theory (or maybe just BS). :)

Posted: November 1, 2008 8:58 pm
by blackjack
Lightning Bolt wrote:This was posted some time ago, in another of the political threads
and the conclusion was this:

The 10th man won't leave!
The only way he made that money in the first place was by screwing over the over nine for years before that! :lol:
Psst, here's a secret, not everyone who is rich "screwed over" the poor oppressed masses.

Posted: November 1, 2008 9:19 pm
by Elrod
blackjack wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:This was posted some time ago, in another of the political threads
and the conclusion was this:

The 10th man won't leave!
The only way he made that money in the first place was by screwing over the over nine for years before that! :lol:
Psst, here's a secret, not everyone who is rich "screwed over" the poor oppressed masses.
Good point.

Posted: November 1, 2008 9:50 pm
by C-Dawg
Lightning Bolt wrote:This was posted some time ago, in another of the political threads
and the conclusion was this:

The 10th man won't leave!
The only way he made that money in the first place was by screwing over the over nine for years before that! :lol:
So, if I'm to believe you, I'm to believe that Jimmy is screwing everyone? Obama is a millionaire, he must be too....sorry, that theory doesn't hold water. A generalization like that is just wrong.

Posted: November 1, 2008 10:15 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Jeez louise :lol:
No sense of humor or sarcasm meters working around here apparently... :wink: :lol:

Posted: November 1, 2008 10:17 pm
by SMLCHNG
Lightning Bolt wrote:Jeez louise :lol:
No sense of humor or sarcasm meters working around here apparently... :wink: :lol:
They've all been on the fritz for the last month, Brad. :wink:

Posted: November 1, 2008 10:18 pm
by C-Dawg
Lightning Bolt wrote:Jeez louise :lol:
No sense of humor or sarcasm meters working around here apparently... :wink: :lol:
hard to gauge sarcasm sometimes...my meter must need calibrating :wink:

Posted: November 1, 2008 10:24 pm
by Lightning Bolt
C-Dawg wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Jeez louise :lol:
No sense of humor or sarcasm meters working around here apparently... :wink: :lol:
hard to gauge sarcasm sometimes...my meter must need calibrating :wink:
I would be NOWHERE in my business without small business owners.
I just don't prescribe to that story's scare tactic... that's all.

Re: Bar Stool Economics

Posted: November 2, 2008 8:52 pm
by AdamBomb8
Migration Michelle wrote:Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
And the bartenders make a lot less money than they do here :lol:

Posted: November 2, 2008 9:06 pm
by Wino you know
SMLCHNG wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Jeez louise :lol:
No sense of humor or sarcasm meters working around here apparently... :wink: :lol:
They've all been on the fritz for the last month, Brad. :wink:
Not ALL.
I'VE been having fun.

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