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Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 12:34 pm
by AdamBomb8
Cobi0613 wrote:Frank4 wrote:
I'll believe it when it happens.
Probably not until 2011 or 2012 at the earliest, that's when the CBA is up...
Would have to be a work stoppage, not sure some teams would be willing to absorb the losses that a stoppage would bring in order to get the cap, but you never know. The other three major pro sports all have some kind of cap and they seem to be doing fine.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 12:56 pm
by Frank4
AdamBomb8 wrote:Cobi0613 wrote:Frank4 wrote:
I'll believe it when it happens.
Probably not until 2011 or 2012 at the earliest, that's when the CBA is up...
Would have to be a work stoppage, not sure some teams would be willing to absorb the losses that a stoppage would bring in order to get the cap, but you never know. The other three major pro sports all have some kind of cap and they seem to be doing fine.
didn't they try and implement the cap in 1994 and the disaster it caused?
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 1:40 pm
by Bfan53again
Frank4 wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Cubs/Orioles trade:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... &fext=.jsp
As an O's fan I think that the Cubs easily got the best of this deal.......OF Felix Pie for P Garrett Olson straight up, one-for-one
While Olson's 2008 major league pitching stats were mediocre (9-10, 6.55 ERA in 29 starts), like most young Oriole hurlers he was rushed into the big leagues out of necessity way too soon (should have been at AAA). He is 12-10 with a 2.96 ERA in 71 career Minor League appearances. He's a lefty with a ton of upside potential.
The better news for me is that the O's and OF Nick Markakis are finally apparently close to a 6-year deal:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... &fext=.jsp
This transaction took way too long.........
I was wrong about this being a one-for-one trade. The O's web site now says that, in addition to Olson, the Cubs also got a minor league pitcher, too:
The Orioles also surrendered Henry Williamson, a 14th-round selection from the 2007 First-Year Player Draft. Williamson spent last season as a reliever with Class A Aberdeen and Class A Delmarva. Between the two stops, Williamson posted an 0-1 record with two saves and a 3.72 ERA in 2008.
The bad trade just got worse.......
Supposedly, the trade of Pie is part of opening up space for a Jake Peavy deal to take place once the Cubs are sold. I was sad to see things did not work out for Pie in Chicago. I thought he was going to be a star once upon a time.
Yeah, that possible Peavy trade was in the Baltimore press, too.
I have nothing against Pie, it's just that the O's have some outfield prospects that could maybe make the parent club along with those already on the ML roster. GM Andy McPhail all winter has said that team was "stockpiling" as many pitchers as possible (they still don't have 4 proven starters for the 2009 rotation). Then they trade 2 decent pitching prospects.......for a 4th outfielder.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 3:55 pm
by docandjeanie
rumdrinks wrote:
That's excellent.......should have signed him longer
They got him cheap too, I agree, I would have went for more years. Glad he's in the fold
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 4:40 pm
by Bfan53again
docandjeanie wrote:rumdrinks wrote:
That's excellent.......should have signed him longer
They got him cheap too, I agree, I would have went for more years. Glad he's in the fold
Hi Jeannie,
What do you think the loss of Burrell will mean to the 2009 Phillies???????
Sorry about the Eagles, but I was pulling for the Ravens so I kind of know how you feel today.......
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 6:46 pm
by Bfan53again
Finally, some good news for Orioles fans:
The Orioles have finalized a six-year, $66 million contract extension with outfielder Nick Markakis, 25, according to baseball sources. Markakis will be in Baltimore later this week to take a routine physical and to sign the contract.
The deal, which will keep one of the organization's building blocks with the Orioles through at least the 2014 season, could also include some incentives and a limited no-trade clause. In terms of guaranteed money, it will be the second-most expensive contract in Orioles history behind only the six-year, $72 million pact given to shortstop Miguel Tejada in December 2003.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 19, 2009 11:13 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Bfan53again wrote:Frank4 wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Cubs/Orioles trade:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... &fext=.jsp
As an O's fan I think that the Cubs easily got the best of this deal.......OF Felix Pie for P Garrett Olson straight up, one-for-one
While Olson's 2008 major league pitching stats were mediocre (9-10, 6.55 ERA in 29 starts), like most young Oriole hurlers he was rushed into the big leagues out of necessity way too soon (should have been at AAA). He is 12-10 with a 2.96 ERA in 71 career Minor League appearances. He's a lefty with a ton of upside potential.
The better news for me is that the O's and OF Nick Markakis are finally apparently close to a 6-year deal:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... &fext=.jsp
This transaction took way too long.........
I was wrong about this being a one-for-one trade. The O's web site now says that, in addition to Olson, the Cubs also got a minor league pitcher, too:
The Orioles also surrendered Henry Williamson, a 14th-round selection from the 2007 First-Year Player Draft. Williamson spent last season as a reliever with Class A Aberdeen and Class A Delmarva. Between the two stops, Williamson posted an 0-1 record with two saves and a 3.72 ERA in 2008.
The bad trade just got worse.......
Supposedly, the trade of Pie is part of opening up space for a Jake Peavy deal to take place once the Cubs are sold. I was sad to see things did not work out for Pie in Chicago. I thought he was going to be a star once upon a time.
Yeah, that possible Peavy trade was in the Baltimore press, too.
I have nothing against Pie, it's just that the O's have some outfield prospects that could maybe make the parent club along with those already on the ML roster. GM Andy McPhail all winter has said that team was "stockpiling" as many pitchers as possible (they still don't have 4 proven starters for the 2009 rotation). Then they trade 2 decent pitching prospects.......for a 4th outfielder.
I'm trying to feel positive about the possibility of bringing Olson over here, but watching a proven Cy Young caliber pitcher leave only
works to re-establish the idea in San Diego that we are going back to the 4-A status that dogged us for years. In the next coming season,
we can only hope that Adrian Gonzalez will extend us the same hometown loyalty that Tony Gwynn did.
...and season ticket sales this spring in SD are still below 10,000...
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 20, 2009 6:18 am
by Bfan53again
Loyalty as shown by first-class players like Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken, Jr. is, I'm afraid, becoming a rather rare commodity in today's sports world....too bad.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 20, 2009 9:44 am
by Frank4
Bfan53again wrote:Loyalty as shown by first-class players like Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken, Jr. is, I'm afraid, becoming a rather rare commodity in today's sports world....too bad.
Very well said, we will not see the likes of those types of players ever again. Sad.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 20, 2009 1:04 pm
by TheSecretsInTheCrust
Frank4 wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Loyalty as shown by first-class players like Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken, Jr. is, I'm afraid, becoming a rather rare commodity in today's sports world....too bad.
Very well said, we will not see the likes of those types of players ever again. Sad.
It was reaffirmed by the departure of John Smoltz from ATL and Trevor Hoffman from SD
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 20, 2009 1:49 pm
by Frank4
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Frank4 wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Loyalty as shown by first-class players like Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken, Jr. is, I'm afraid, becoming a rather rare commodity in today's sports world....too bad.
Very well said, we will not see the likes of those types of players ever again. Sad.
It was reaffirmed by the departure of John Smoltz from ATL and Trevor Hoffman from SD
I am still stunned at both those players leaving those teams. Smoltz just blew me away.
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 20, 2009 1:57 pm
by Lightning Bolt
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Frank4 wrote:Bfan53again wrote:Loyalty as shown by first-class players like Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken, Jr. is, I'm afraid, becoming a rather rare commodity in today's sports world....too bad.
Very well said, we will not see the likes of those types of players ever again. Sad.
It was reaffirmed by the departure of John Smoltz from ATL and Trevor Hoffman from SD
I wonder if Trevor will take the Hells Bells entrance ritual with him to Milwaukee? (I imagine he will)
It would seem almost blasphemous from over here in SD
... just downloaded Heath Bell's new 9th inning theme "Blow Me Away" by Breaking Benjamin
meh
I'll learn to like it if it means saves/wins!
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 21, 2009 7:00 pm
by Bfan53again
And the Yanks keep acting like there is no limit to how many dollars they are willing to spend for the 2009 season:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9112 ... t-done-yet
As long as the checkbooks are open, I'm happy to see that the BoSox and Papelbon have avoided arbitration:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9108 ... th-Red-Sox
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 7:08 am
by Bfan53again
Spring training update:
Pitchers & catchers report in 23 days......
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 7:46 am
by TommyBahama
Bfan53again wrote:Spring training update:
Pitchers & catchers report in 23 days......
That gives me a warm feeling knowing that!!!
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 5:29 pm
by luvinlife
When will the sox sign the captain????
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 5:29 pm
by luvinlife
When will the sox sign the captain????
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 5:30 pm
by luvinlife
When will the sox sign the captain????
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 5:31 pm
by luvinlife
When will the sox sign the captain????
Re: 2009 Baseball Season
Posted: January 22, 2009 5:35 pm
by TommyBahama
to answer the 4 questions....This did..His name is Dustin Pedroia!!!!
