CaptainP wrote:OK, now do those same stats on Griffey through the 2000 season. It can be argued that if a player reaches a HOF level for a sustained period of 10 years, you can never take it away from him. Check that period of time. Was he HOF level then?drunkpirate66 wrote:Just messing around on http://www.baseballreference.com . . .
Offensive Winning Percentage: a player's offensive winning percentage is the percentage of games a team would with 9 of that player in its lineup . . . (given average pitching and defense).
How fun is that!?
The great Ken Griffey jr is 134th on the list and falling fast. Brian Giles is 119th - - - just to give a comparison. Wow.
OPS + (adjusted). OPS + is OPS adjusted for the park and the league in which the player played.
Ken Griffey jr. is 91st on this list and, again, falling fast. He is tied with Will Clark . . .
Just giving some fun facts for the day . . . (Griffey is a Brian Giles and Will Clark level player . . . not bad at all . . .)
OH - - - Griffey's At Bat per Homerun . . . now down to 15.3 (19th all time). Juan Gone's is 15.1. Griffey's will continue to fall down well into the 20' s if not 30's if his trend continues. But he sure does got alot of them dingers . . .boy howdy.
How many times do I have to say it? That is the point! Of course Griffey was 2000 and prior. And, I realize that every player falls off towards the end of his career. But Griffey didn't . . . he fell off before even half his career was over AND FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME I feel that he was more of a HOF with his overall 2000 and prior stats then now . . . with his bogus 600 HRs. He killed his entire career to get there . . . he didn't win games . . . he didn't do anything productive except . . . wait for it . . . plod along to 600.
The two above stats prove that. Griffey with 450 Homeruns and all his other stats in tact would've got my vote. Griffey with his career offensive (except HRs) and defensive stats now mediocre at best . . . Not So Much. He is a Will Clark and Brian Giles level player in terms of overall value.






