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This happened back home the other day..... WTF? Why can't they get a hunting license and deer tags like the rest of the population??? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Snowmobilers run over five deer near Waupaca
Appleton Post Crescent • January 12, 2009

WAUPACA — A group of snowmobilers in central Wisconsin herded and killed four deer and severely injured a fifth in what a warden called a senseless act of cruelty today.

No arrests have been made in the Saturday morning incident about five miles south of Waupaca, said Ted Dremel, a state Department of Natural Resources warden.

There’s talk of closing all snowmobile trails in Waupaca County until the "rogue snowmobilers" are caught, he said.

"It is senseless. I don’t know how else to describe it," Dremel said. "It is probably something they thought was fun or humorous at the time. They did purposely run over these deer. The tracks in the snow were in a circular manner, almost looking like they were chasing the deer back to other snowmobile partners."

Randy Yorkson, who farms the land, said people cannot believe what happened.

"I am going to guess it is somebody who left a bar. They probably had been using that trail before, knowing the deer were out there," he said. "This is just some yahoos who don’t have any common sense."

Landowner Virginia Niemuth, 80, immediately shut off access to her property, closing five miles of the main snowmobile trail across Waupaca County.

"There’s sick people out there," Niemuth said. "I used to love to snowmobile, but this is too much."

Dremel believes three or four snowmobiles were involved in a roundup of deer in a moonlit alfalfa field where 30 to 40 animals were known to feed. Witnesses reported hearing snowmobiles in the area about 3:30 a.m., he said.

Three deer were found dead in the field. A snowmobile stopped atop one and ripped open its stomach, Dremel said. A fourth deer with broken legs was euthanized.

The fifth deer was dragged from the field and tied to a tree about 25 feet from a road. Investigators think someone may have planned to return for that deer, Dremel said.

"It looked like the deer wrapped itself around the tree and choked itself to death," he said.

Dremel said he has never heard of this kind of "cowboy-style" attack on deer with snowmobiles.

"Usually, it is an accident — a deer standing in a trail and a snowmobiler can’t avoid it," he said.

The dead deer included two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

Investigators have no suspects. Some snowmobile clubs have offered $4,000 in rewards for information leading to arrests, Dremel said. Information can be phoned into the DNR’s tip line at 1-800-TIP-WDNR.

"This is not characteristic of the snowmobile community in Wisconsin," DNR Chief Warden Randy Stark said in Madison. "Obviously, we are looking to get any public assistance we can in identifying who is responsible for this."

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Reward grows for information about torture, killing of deer near Waupaca
Investigators collect clues to find culprits

By John Lee • Post-Crescent staff writer • January 14, 2009

WAUPACA — The hunt for the snowmobilers responsible for the slaughter of five deer intensified Tuesday as reward money for their capture poured in and investigators sent snowmobile parts found near the scene for lab testing.

The killings have sparked outrage by animal lovers and snowmobilers alike, and a collection of reward funds for information or the conviction of those responsible has swelled to more than $10,000 and still is growing.

Capt. Don Conat of the Waupaca County Sheriff's Department said investigators hope snowmobile parts recovered from near the scene will yield fingerprints and information about the make and model of at least one of the sleds involved.

The deer were found dead Saturday, apparently run down by a group of three or four snowmobilers who herded the animals from an alfalfa field five miles south of Waupaca where a herd of 30 to 40 are known to feed.

Three deer were found dead in the field. A snowmobile stopped atop one and ripped open its stomach, said Ted Dremel, a state Department of Natural Resources warden based in Waupaca County. A fourth deer with broken legs was euthanized. The fifth deer was dragged from the field and tied to a tree about 25 feet from a road. Investigators think someone may have planned to return for that deer, Dremel said.

The dead deer were two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

As the investigation continues, the timeline for the killings has changed. Originally, authorities thought it happened about 3:30 a.m. because reports from neighbors that they had heard snowmobiles about that time.

Now, however, Conat said other snowmobilers on the nearby trail reported seeing one of the deer lying along the trail south of Denmark Road when they passed through the area at 9:30 p.m. Friday. The steam from the deer's breath was visible then to the snowmobilers.

"It looked out of breath," he said.

Conat said people shouldn't assume the snowmobilers who killed the deer are local. "It's hard to say because people can put on 80 or 100 miles a day on a snowmobile so I guess we can't really restrict ourselves to where," he said.

People statewide, particularly snowmobilers, have expressed their dismay and anger over the killings, which led the property owner to close a key five-mile stretch of the trail in Waupaca County.

Bob Springer, president of the Waupaca County Snowmobile Association, said he has received $9,000 in donations so far, and people with information may also be eligible for up to $1,000 in rewards from the Waupaca County Crime Stoppers.

The Fox Valley Humane Association is offering a $500 reward leading to the arrest and conviction of the persons responsible and the Waupaca County Line Trailblazers Snowmobile Club also has set up a reward fund.

David Peterson, sheriff of adjacent Waushara County, said his county's Crime Stoppers also is seeking tips and offering a reward.

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Complete morons.....I can think of a few other choice words for them but I'll refrain
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In Idaho.. We are allowed to shoot at people to attempt to stop them from
doing stuff like that.. :evil: :evil:
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ragtopW wrote:In Idaho.. We are allowed to shoot at people to attempt to stop them from
doing stuff like that.. :evil: :evil:
Rightfully so. Bastards!
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It just shows that Stupid people do stupid stuff. When they fiind these boneheads, they will cry and say "Please it was an accident. We didn't mean to do it"
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But isn't this a cultural thing among drunk snowmobilers? This is stupid, but selling your daughter into marriage isn't? Come on BNers!
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carolinagirl wrote:But isn't this a cultural thing among drunk snowmobilers? This is stupid, but selling your daughter into marriage isn't? Come on BNers!
Uh.. I was against the selling also.. :)
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carolinagirl wrote:But isn't this a cultural thing among drunk snowmobilers? This is stupid, but selling your daughter into marriage isn't? Come on BNers!
especially when the sale involves her going with a drunken snowmobiler.
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Depends how much the sale brings in. Bad economy and all, we should all be doing our part to help out.
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Gotta keep some perspective here.

This is a terrible, and cruel act towards wildlife,
so investigate, and catch the bastards, and hit 'em hard with the fines and jail time.

But... I don't see how do you justify shooting another person for "inhumanely" killing an animal
in a place where, just months earlier, you pay to get a permit (tag) to kill (harvest) the same animal in "humane" fashion.

Gotta keep some perspective here.
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Lightning Bolt wrote:Gotta keep some perspective here.

This is a terrible, and cruel act towards wildlife,
so investigate, and catch the bastards, and hit 'em hard with the fines and jail time.


agreed 110%
Lightning Bolt wrote:But... I don't see how do you justify shooting another person for "inhumanely" killing an animal
in a place where, just months earlier, you pay to get a permit (tag) to kill (harvest) the same animal in "humane" fashion.

Gotta keep some perspective here.
While I agree that you can't arbitrarily shoot someone because they are cruel to animals I see no correlation between legally hunting an animal for food vs running one over causing it's guts spill out, breaking the legs of another and tying a third to a tree (supposidly to come back for it later but oops it was spooked and wound itself around the tree and choked itself to death). While some consider hunting to be animal abuse, what these people have done IS animal abuse in almost the worst possible fashion imaginable. It make one wonder what value these people would place on a human life, if any. Now as I understand part of this occured on private property and I'm sure that the state does have laws concerning the use of deadly force when protecting ones property. I know I wouldn't hesistate to use deadly force, within the confines of the law, if the need arose.
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There's a big difference between a responsible hunter and a sadist who tortures animals for fun. :-?

Would I shoot the bastards? Nah....but I might be tempted to round 'em up and run them over with a snowmobile. Turnabout is fair play, right?
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Oh NO! This is bad, very bad.
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Love all ya'll but I got no problem shooting dummies I catch doing this..

But I am pretty hard hearted..

BTW.. Connie?? in most states the wildlife is considered state property
so unless it's a game ranch and registered as such the wildlife is still
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this makes me sick. I really hope the people that did this are caught.
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ragtopW wrote:Love all ya'll but I got no problem shooting dummies I catch doing this..

But I am pretty hard hearted..

BTW.. Connie?? in most states the wildlife is considered state property
so unless it's a game ranch and registered as such the wildlife is still
under state juristiction
Oh I understand wildlife being under state jurisdiction. My thought is more along the lines of a castle doctrine :wink:
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THEY GOT THEM!!!

Three Weyauwega men jailed in connection with Waupaca County snowmobile deer slaughter
The Post-Crescent • January 15, 2009

WAUPACA — Three snowmobilers, one riding a stolen sled, chased down deer from behind before running them over in a slaughter that left five animals dead, investigators say.

The three Waupaca County men arrested in connection with the killing of deer last weekend near Waupaca were booked in the Waupaca County Jail on Wednesday afternoon.

They are:

Robby Kuenzi, 23, E5548 North Shore Road, Weyauwega;
Rory Kuenzi, 24, 410 Harlon Street, Weyauwega;
Nicholas Hermes, 22, 215 W. Alfred Street, Weyauwega.

The men are being held on multiple felony counts of mistreatment of animals. The men face 3 ½ years and a $10,000 fine on each count.

Hermes made his initial appearance today in Waupaca County Circuit Court, and was released on a $15,000 signature bond. Waupaca County Assistant Dist. Atty. James Fassbender said the deer slaughter demonstrated “a good deal of depravity,” but agreed to a signature bond for Hermes because he cooperated with investigators.

In the criminal complaint obtained today by The Post-Crescent, investigators say they went to Hermes’ home after receiving tips he might have been involved in the slaughter.

Hermes’ 18-year-old fiancée, who was with him the night the deer were killed, answered the door of the home they share, and allowed investigators to search it.

There they found Hermes’ Polaris snowmobile, and it was covered in some spots with blood and deer hair.

When authorities interviewed Hermes at his job, he said he and his fiancée were snowmobiling Friday when they met Robby and Rory Kuenzi.

The three snowmobiles encountered the deer near Denmark Road in Lind, and Hermes said he accidentally struck a deer, but the Kuenzi brothers began purposely chasing the deer down before running them over.

Hermes said he saw Rory Kuenzi at one point dragging a deer that had been roped to the sled.

Investigators found three of the deer in the field Saturday. A snowmobile had stopped atop one of them and ripped open its stomach, said Ted Dremel, a state Department of Natural Resources warden based in Waupaca County.

A fourth deer had broken legs and was euthanized. The fifth deer had been dragged from the field and tied to a tree about 25 feet from a road. It strangled itself trying to get free.

The dead deer were two bucks and three does. One was a fawn.

Police, acting on tips, found the stolen snowmobile, near snowmobile trails in Mukwa. The sled was reported stolen Dec. 26 from outside the Kegles Bowling Center in Manawa.

The slaughter has sparked outrage from snowmobilers, hunters and animal lovers, and rewards totaling more than $10,000 have been offered for information leading to the suspects or their convictions.

Neither Nicholas Hermes nor Robby Kuenzi has a criminal record, according to online court records, though Robby Kuenzi was ticketed in 2003 for shining wild animals.

Rory Kuenzi was convicted in 2005 of substantial battery and sentenced to a year in prison on the conviction in December 2007 when his probation was revoked.

Robby and Rory Kuenzi are scheduled to make their initial appearances Friday. Hermes will appear in court again Jan. 27.


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YEAH!!!!!! Hope those bastids get the the max punishment!!!


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