Do you support the Obama "stimulus package"?

[captenuta]

The sad thing is, I can't in good conscience say it would be different with a GOP congress, because the GOP congress from 2001-2006 spent money like it was going out of style. They abandoned fiscal conservatism, to their detriment.

Ron Paul/Tom Coburn 2012!

Your right on the spending but we had record low interest rates and the DOW hit 14,000. Check out a chart of the DOW from 2000 to 2008. Its only when the Dems took over that the DOW started to turn lower.

[captenuta]

I absolutley do not and one of my biggest concerns is how they slipped their Healthcare reform items into a Stimulus package. They basically are trying to nationalize healthcare using backdoor methods and they made a huge step with this so called rescue plan. It allows for a Healthcare Czar that can dictate to doctors and medical care providers what is necessary and acceptable with regards to spending. It also deters from use of new technologies and experimental drugs to help people. If you want to see more check out this link to Bloomberg. This is a perfect example of business as usual in Washington and is exactly why no Republicans supported the bill in the House and only three supported it in the Senate.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... zfDxfbwhzs

I read this the other day and called my congresswomen (Bean) to say don't support the bill.

[TheSecretsInTheCrust]

This is a package written for politicians by politicians....meaning not only do the everyday folks get NOTHING....Our grandkids get the bill.

[creeky]

This is a package written for politicians by politicians....meaning not only do the everyday folks get NOTHING....Our grandkids get the bill.

Why I like ours - for the first time ever in my life- the average taxpayer gets something. The rich people get nothing .....

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

Renamed "Recovery and Reinvestment Plan", sounds better, doesn't it? Congressional Budget Office says the true cost over 10 years will be $3.27 TRILLION. Break out your wallets.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

My thoughts on this subject cannot be posted on a family board............

[bestseller92]

The sad thing is, I can't in good conscience say it would be different with a GOP congress, because the GOP congress from 2001-2006 spent money like it was going out of style. They abandoned fiscal conservatism, to their detriment.

Ron Paul/Tom Coburn 2012!

Your right on the spending but we had record low interest rates and the DOW hit 14,000. Check out a chart of the DOW from 2000 to 2008. Its only when the Dems took over that the DOW started to turn lower.

Oh, I'm not saying the Dems are better, I'm decrying the fact that the conservative GOP Congress we had from 1995-2001 is not the one we had from 2001-2007.

[AdamBomb8]

WHO wants pork?

The only change one can believe in.
They will be lucky if that is all they have left.

Everyone who thought they voted for change didn't get any change, its still the same old same old in Washington

[Moonie]

Ron Paul/Tom Coburn 2012!

you cannot be serious? I lived 16 miles north of where is medical practice was located.

he should have been charged with fraud for claims he made for medicare/medicade payments. maybe because it wasn't billions he got away with, it was overlooked.

he's one of those rights, the righteous rights.

[Elrod]

BO's people have announced that he is going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil by flying to Denver to sign the stimulus bill in a private ceremony. Air Force 1, three transport aircraft carrying limousines and other vehicles, the motorcade to the site and the thousands of idling cars as the parade route is blocked off.

And I'll bet there ain't a single hybrid in the motorcade.

[Feesh]

Nope - it doesn't do things the right way. Lessen the burden of the taxpayer, get rid of wasteful spending, put more money in the pockets of EVERYONE especially small businesses and the middle class - that's how you stimulate the economy!

Spending our hard earned money on ridiculous programs, saying you're passing a bipartisan bill, which is probably the most partisan bill in the history, while you preach to the world on how you're going to work together with Republicans and "change" Washington. Wow - I thought it would take longer for our President to be proven a fraud.

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years and if the Republicans can get their head out of their arses and remember their true conservative values - maybe then we can get this country moving back in the right direction.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

[Tequila Revenge]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

I agree, but ONLY if it applies to every State. If it's decided as a state by state election, there will be a huge power shift to those states that do not support term limits.

As a Californian, Gov. Arnie is getting to sign legislation to raise our taxes to cover as $42 billion budget "short fall." He ran a relection campaign against Gray Davis based on Californian's paying to many taxes and the need to ballance the budget. 8 years later, there's a change of characters.... but we have the same problems.

My feelings are we are not any thing more to Washington or pick your state than an income stream. The politicians feel justifed to get as much of our money as possible to provide programs that the lobbyist funded their elections campaigns...... errrrrrr..... I mean we "need."

Are we willing to sit back and take it one more time?

[Feesh]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

And a lot of Americans do zero research or don't even vote for their Representatives and Senators. The veteran members of Congress seem to win without a challenge every year. Maybe because they have their lobbyists backing them and have more money for campaign ads.

But I believe that "change" will come from this. Republicans got away from conservatism and over spent year after year. They got greedy and turned their back on us and we're now paying for it. The Democrats are no less guilty (actually maybe more since they have a large amount of blame to take for the housing crisis - even though they don't). So because President Bush was a Republican (not a fiscal conservative!), and people like to blame everything on him, the Dems continue to have the power.

But I find it hard to believe that people think that things have gotten better over the last two years since they've been in power. So the trend continues with this "stimulus" package - borrow and spend, borrow and spend. Forget about small businesses or cutting payroll taxes to keep American jobs here. Let's put more money in environmental campaigns - ahem.

Good things will come of this though. From Carter came Reagan. From Obama will hopefully come a strong fiscal conservative who will lead us for years to come.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

I agree, but ONLY if it applies to every State. If it's decided as a state by state election, there will be a huge power shift to those states that do not support term limits.

As a Californian, Gov. Arnie is getting to sign legislation to raise our taxes to cover as $42 billion budget "short fall." He ran a relection campaign against Gray Davis based on Californian's paying to many taxes and the need to ballance the budget. 8 years later, there's a change of characters.... but we have the same problems.

My feelings are we are not any thing more to Washington or pick your state than an income stream. The politicians feel justifed to get as much of our money as possible to provide programs that the lobbyist funded their elections campaigns...... errrrrrr..... I mean we "need."

Are we willing to sit back and take it one more time?

Agreed.

And as far as sitting back and taking it, we're basically sheep.... If we all rose up together, we could change it (WITHIN the confines of the Constitution. I'm not advocating a coup or overthrow ), but we don't.... or won't.......

[Tequila Revenge]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

I agree, but ONLY if it applies to every State. If it's decided as a state by state election, there will be a huge power shift to those states that do not support term limits.

As a Californian, Gov. Arnie is getting to sign legislation to raise our taxes to cover as $42 billion budget "short fall." He ran a relection campaign against Gray Davis based on Californian's paying to many taxes and the need to ballance the budget. 8 years later, there's a change of characters.... but we have the same problems.

My feelings are we are not any thing more to Washington or pick your state than an income stream. The politicians feel justifed to get as much of our money as possible to provide programs that the lobbyist funded their elections campaigns...... errrrrrr..... I mean we "need."

Are we willing to sit back and take it one more time?

Agreed.

And as far as sitting back and taking it, we're basically sheep.... If we all rose up together, we could change it (WITHIN the confines of the Constitution. I'm not advocating a coup or overthrow ), but we don't.... or won't.......

geeze... what could we do to get their attention.....

maybe 20 million Americans change their W-4's and clam 15 dependants so employeers won't have pay roll taxes to send in?

[C-Dawg]

If this "stimulus" package fails, this administration and the majority of Congress (who is the the main problem) will be gone in four years

I'd agree with you that continued economic failure will (should) result in a change of administration in 2012 but the American public doesn't seem willing ot clean house in Congress and toss out those who have made a career in politics when (IMHO) the founding fathers never intended it to be a career. Term limits would go a LONG way toward solving our country's problems....

I know I've posted this before, but I'll do it again.....here are a few things I'd like to see to give power back to the people....

1. Term Limits....and by that I mean, you are elected to a term and you do it and then go home. Re-election is banned for the US Senate, Congress and the White House but terms are extended to 6 years to enable our elected officials to enact and see through the changes they've enacted. We are overpaying these people to represent us, not to run for re-election. Anyone can run for more than one term, just not consecutively.

2. US Senate and Congress are paid the average salary for the State they represent, with the same benefits as every other state worker of that state. Giving themselves a raise is a thing of the past, and the only way to give themselves a raise is to raise the average wage of their state. Retirement benefits will also be the same as those of the state workers. Every state is required to buy a residence for their Senators and Congressmen, and pay the taxes and upkeep on it. There will also be a budget for operating their office just as there is now, otherwise our public servants will have to learn to live as we do. They are Public servants, not Royalty.

Lobbying. Once you have taken a job as a Lobbyist, you are then ineligible for Public Office, including working in the White House, period. Rules on Lobbyists need to be stricter, to close loopholes such as the one used recently by Tom Daschle.

Just my 2 cents.....what do you think?

[Wino you know]

Now that Chris Matthews and other women like him have gotten their libido fix over Barry Obammy, if they're able to do any thinking AT ALL with their heads, as opposed to other parts of their anatomy, they SHOULD realize there is no way we could EVER spend our way into prosperity, any "new deals" be damned.
Contrary to the popular myth, F.D.R.s "new deal" is NOT what brought the U.S. out of the depression, but, as the FACTS will show, it was World War II.
Something this country needs much worse than a "stimulus" package (a.k.a.-let the politicians take more money from their lemming voters package) is

TERM LIMITS!!!

When there are fruits and nuts on each coast that keep electing and RE-electing baffoons like Teddy-the-red-nosed-Senator, Chuck-the-putz-Shoo-mer, Barney (my boy lollipop) Frank, and Bra-Bra Boxer (and the supreme IDIOTS in Minnesota grace us with the sheer talent and wisdom of Professor Al Franken) time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time, and us schlubs in flyover country have no say so as to their getting their lifetime annointments in the U.S. senate, yet, they can sit on their overly ample rear ends and make these STUPID laws that have an affect on ALL of our lives, it's way past time for

TERM LIMITS!!!


Thank GOD for people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Mike Reagan, Roger Hedgecock, Bill O'Reilly, Dennis Miller, Dr. Laura, and Ann Coulter.

[Elrod]

Colorado expects to receive $1.97 Billion of the $797 Billion in the package. (1/4 of one percent.)

Democrats - including the representative from our district - claim that this will create 60,000 new jobs in Colorado. ($1,970,000,000 / 60,000 = $32,833.33) The per capita income in Colorado is about $40,000.

The new jobs will pay below average. "How much below?" depends on how much of that $1.97 billion is spent on materials for the projects. Every dollar that is spent on materials is a dollar less for labor. Most of these projects are built from concrete and steel, expensive materials.

People see a promise of $1.97 billion in new spending and start grinning from ear-to-ear. If they are smart enough to do the math, they will see that it is not all that it is cracked up to be.

Whether I support it or not, this ill-conceived plan has become the law of the land and I will be paying for it for the rest of my life.

[Wino you know]

Whether I support it or not, this ill-conceived plan has become the law of the land and I will be paying for it for the rest of my life.

It's going to fix things about as well as Lyndon Johnson's "war on poverty" fixed things.