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Leonard Cohen Spring Tour
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Either way the podcast is now available for download on that dark and depressing mp3 format from that sad player iTunes.
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Dude, look, It is not that I don't like the guy. I don't know him. I have a coworker that plays a bunch of his music. I never heard of Leonard Cohen before. I am not putting Leonard Cohen down or attacking him or his fans.popcornjack wrote:Well, I never found the song "Don't go Home with your Hard On" to be deep, dark or depressing. I think "Hallejulah" is one of the most uplifting songs I've ever heard. And maybe it's just the immaturity in me, but any song about getting a blow job ("Chelsea Hotel") seems to be pretty light hearted.Spider Johnson wrote:He may well be a "f**** genius". He may well be a "very distinct voice". There is no question of his long career or his sucess. None of which answers my question.popcornjack wrote:I don't listen to Leonard Cohen for "upbeat, good time, hey someone pass me a margarita" songs. I don't need to. I got this guy name Jimmy Buffett who fills that need just perfectly.
I listen to Leonard Cohen cause he's a f**** genius. Period. Create a list of what someone believes are the best singer/songwriters from the last 60 years and his name should be on it. His is a very distinct voice, I'll grant you. but so are lots of others who have made a long career out of not compromising and singing their own songs. Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Steve Earl, Tom Petty..
My point was that I don't listen to him for songs that are full of energy, have a good beat and you can dance to them. I think he is an amazing songwriter, both lyrically and musically, and I enjoy listening to the stories that he tells. This may come as a shock and surprise to some people, but it is possible to enjoy more than one style of music.
Now, if you want to talk about being down, draining and a mega negative effect, it's obvious that you don't like Leonard Cohen and you're not going to like Leonard Cohen. That's fine. Couldn't care less, more tickets for me. But I just checked the title of the thread. It's not "If you don't like Leonard Cohen, post your opinion here". It's the "Leonard Cohen Spring Tour" thread, a place for people who do like Leonard Cohen to find out about his tour and share stories and information. So, if Leonard Cohen is such a dark and depressing person whose music drains you so much, why did you even open this thread in the first place?
I only asked a simple question, because all of the songs, I have heard played (and apparently many knowing music critics agree) have found Leonard Cohen's music to mainly be dark and morose. Take that up with the music critics. I cannot help the feelings I have felt after listening to his music. I voiced what I and others have told me they have felt, after listening to some of his music.
Granted those may not be the feelings you or any numerous of others felt, but they are the feelings that we felt.
Wouldn't it have been much simpler for you to originally suggest a song or two, that were not down, or morose or whatever? Rather than to go through all of that? He may be a genius, but that does not mean he appeals to everyone, anymore than JB does.
Now that you have suggested a couple of "positive" songs I will try to find them and give them a listen.
I stated before, I am quite sure many people do like him and listen to him. That's cool. Enjoy. I hope you get to go to his concerts and have a most memorable and pleasant time. I really do.
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Have a nice day!
Those who can, actually do, those who can't, continue to prove their ignorance.
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Re: Leonard Cohen Spring Tour
I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
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are you sure you're not Sam?Spider Johnson wrote:Dude, look, It is not that I don't like the guy. I don't know him. I have a coworker that plays a bunch of his music. I never heard of Leonard Cohen before. I am not putting Leonard Cohen down or attacking him or his fans.popcornjack wrote:Well, I never found the song "Don't go Home with your Hard On" to be deep, dark or depressing. I think "Hallejulah" is one of the most uplifting songs I've ever heard. And maybe it's just the immaturity in me, but any song about getting a blow job ("Chelsea Hotel") seems to be pretty light hearted.Spider Johnson wrote:He may well be a "f**** genius". He may well be a "very distinct voice". There is no question of his long career or his sucess. None of which answers my question.popcornjack wrote:I don't listen to Leonard Cohen for "upbeat, good time, hey someone pass me a margarita" songs. I don't need to. I got this guy name Jimmy Buffett who fills that need just perfectly.
I listen to Leonard Cohen cause he's a f**** genius. Period. Create a list of what someone believes are the best singer/songwriters from the last 60 years and his name should be on it. His is a very distinct voice, I'll grant you. but so are lots of others who have made a long career out of not compromising and singing their own songs. Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Steve Earl, Tom Petty..
My point was that I don't listen to him for songs that are full of energy, have a good beat and you can dance to them. I think he is an amazing songwriter, both lyrically and musically, and I enjoy listening to the stories that he tells. This may come as a shock and surprise to some people, but it is possible to enjoy more than one style of music.
Now, if you want to talk about being down, draining and a mega negative effect, it's obvious that you don't like Leonard Cohen and you're not going to like Leonard Cohen. That's fine. Couldn't care less, more tickets for me. But I just checked the title of the thread. It's not "If you don't like Leonard Cohen, post your opinion here". It's the "Leonard Cohen Spring Tour" thread, a place for people who do like Leonard Cohen to find out about his tour and share stories and information. So, if Leonard Cohen is such a dark and depressing person whose music drains you so much, why did you even open this thread in the first place?
I only asked a simple question, because all of the songs, I have heard played (and apparently many knowing music critics agree) have found Leonard Cohen's music to mainly be dark and morose. Take that up with the music critics. I cannot help the feelings I have felt after listening to his music. I voiced what I and others have told me they have felt, after listening to some of his music.
Granted those may not be the feelings you or any numerous of others felt, but they are the feelings that we felt.
Wouldn't it have been much simpler for you to originally suggest a song or two, that were not down, or morose or whatever? Rather than to go through all of that? He may be a genius, but that does not mean he appeals to everyone, anymore than JB does.
Now that you have suggested a couple of "positive" songs I will try to find them and give them a listen.
I stated before, I am quite sure many people do like him and listen to him. That's cool. Enjoy. I hope you get to go to his concerts and have a most memorable and pleasant time. I really do.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
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I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.
got to stop wishin' got to start fishin'....
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Tequila Revenge wrote:I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.Since the man is an icon in our society I'm way past taking LC 101, The Definative Cohen. Ready to shell out the cash and start listening.
Jack sent me the lyrics to Chelsea Hotel and I swear they are so familiar!!!
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Tequila Revenge wrote:I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.Since the man is an icon in our society I'm way past taking LC 101, The Definative Cohen. Ready to shell out the cash and start listening.
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NOW I REMEMBER HEARING HIM!!! OMG!!! Way back in the 70's some friends of mine had his
New Skin For The Old Ceremony and Songs Of Love And Hate. No wonder Chelsea Hotel lyrics looked so familiar!! Once I actually heard the song it came back!! THANKS JACK!!!
New Skin For The Old Ceremony and Songs Of Love And Hate. No wonder Chelsea Hotel lyrics looked so familiar!! Once I actually heard the song it came back!! THANKS JACK!!!
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Google the dude. Singer/songwriter/poet/writer....... Bob Dylan looks up to himph4ever wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.Since the man is an icon in our society I'm way past taking LC 101, The Definative Cohen. Ready to shell out the cash and start listening.
Jack sent me the lyrics to Chelsea Hotel and I swear they are so familiar!!!
KK mentioned there's a good documentary about LC. Hopefully that's available on Netflix
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VanillaGrl wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.Since the man is an icon in our society I'm way past taking LC 101, The Definative Cohen. Ready to shell out the cash and start listening.
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Tequila Revenge wrote:Google the dude. Singer/songwriter/poet/writer....... Bob Dylan looks up to himph4ever wrote:Tequila Revenge wrote:I know how you feel. I mean what happened to us?ph4ever wrote:I'm really not familiar with Leonard Cohen's music however considering some people that I really love and respect enjoy his music I think I need to give it a try.Since the man is an icon in our society I'm way past taking LC 101, The Definative Cohen. Ready to shell out the cash and start listening.
Jack sent me the lyrics to Chelsea Hotel and I swear they are so familiar!!!
KK mentioned there's a good documentary about LC. Hopefully that's available on Netflix
Leonard Cohen: I'm Your Man
'It was about the feeling that we have of betraying some mission that we were mandated to fulfill, and being unable to fulfill it. And then coming to understand that the real mandate was not to fulfill it, and that the deeper courage, was to stand guiltless in the predicament in which you found yourself.' ~Leonard Cohen - explaining his song "The Traitor"
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The Beacon show, 72 and can belt them out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYlQOOM ... re=related
Love his hat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYlQOOM ... re=related
Love his hat
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YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! GOT MY TICKET IN THE MAIL TODAY!!!!!!!
I know this is a JB site, and I know Leonard Cohen is about as far from JB as you can get in almost every sense. They are both amazing storytellers, but beyond that, even what they tells stories about, are so different that it seems incomprehensible to be a fan of both of them, but this is an event I have been thinking about since the fall of 1992, almost eighteen years. and I could not be more excited!!!!!!!
I know this is a JB site, and I know Leonard Cohen is about as far from JB as you can get in almost every sense. They are both amazing storytellers, but beyond that, even what they tells stories about, are so different that it seems incomprehensible to be a fan of both of them, but this is an event I have been thinking about since the fall of 1992, almost eighteen years. and I could not be more excited!!!!!!!
Take me for what I am, a star newly emerging.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
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Congrats Jack!!!
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Just gotta finish up some dinner and I am on my way!!!!
Take me for what I am, a star newly emerging.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
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*BIGGEST SMILE*popcornjack wrote:Just gotta finish up some dinner and I am on my way!!!!
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Hope you enjoy the show!!!!popcornjack wrote:Just gotta finish up some dinner and I am on my way!!!!
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I'm not sure that he has any uplifting songs. And, for all of Buffett's many positive, uplifting tunes, they're not all that way (thank goodness). I also don't think it's any great stretch that someone could be a fan of Leonard Cohen and Jimmy Buffett. I don't listen to Buffett 24/7 and I don't suspect anyone else does either. That would sure get mighty old after a while.
I first heard of Cohen through my older siblings but it wasn't until years later that I got more into him on my own through movies like Pump Up the Volume (which used his Everybody Knows to great effect) and the tribute album I'm Your Fan.

Leonard Cohen "Everybody Knows" (From Pump Up the Volume)
I first heard of Cohen through my older siblings but it wasn't until years later that I got more into him on my own through movies like Pump Up the Volume (which used his Everybody Knows to great effect) and the tribute album I'm Your Fan.

Leonard Cohen "Everybody Knows" (From Pump Up the Volume)
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AWESOME SHOW!!!!!
He played for almost three hours and it was awesome. So totally stoked I got to see him in concert!!!!
He played for almost three hours and it was awesome. So totally stoked I got to see him in concert!!!!
Take me for what I am, a star newly emerging.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
I accept the new found man, and I set the twilight reeling.
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Sooooo glad you got to see him, Jack!!!popcornjack wrote:AWESOME SHOW!!!!!
He played for almost three hours and it was awesome. So totally stoked I got to see him in concert!!!!
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