BuffettNews.com

Skibo wrote:I'm not aware of a single death of an American to this disease. Until the border is sealed with mexico and travel is restricted to that third world cesspool there better not be any restrictions in our country.

An infant died in Texas, not sure if there were anymore deaths.

UpstateNYPH wrote:

Skibo wrote:I'm not aware of a single death of an American to this disease. Until the border is sealed with mexico and travel is restricted to that third world cesspool there better not be any restrictions in our country.

An infant died in Texas, not sure if there were anymore deaths.

But the child was a Mexican visiting the U.S., and based on the incubation period he contracted the flu in Mexico before he crossed the border.

UpstateNYPH wrote:

Skibo wrote:I'm not aware of a single death of an American to this disease.

An infant died in Texas, not sure if there were anymore deaths.

One death in a country of over 300 million.
As compared to the 36,000 on average who die every year in the US from influenza

sounds like a good reason for hysteria!

Folks, stop watching the so called news. They are not from the time of Edward Murrow. The news media does not even provide information. Stick with the CDC reports, NPR and the PBS newhour. Plus, stay away from Twitter which is loaded with non credible sources.

It's at a point where people are making claims without proof. Some say BS, some say it's bad and we should duct tape our noses and mouths. Unless you publish papers in peer reviewed journals or cite where you are getting your claim from, your information is garbage and is just as dangerous as the useless news outlets.

This made me snort...

z-man wrote:One death in a country of over 300 million.
As compared to the 36,000 on average who die every year in the US from influenza
sounds like a good reason for hysteria!

Like z-man said. One death.

The swine flu "pandemic" scare hit the news when — about two weeks ago? How many people have died while driving cars during the same period?
I don't know the answer; I will guarantee it's more than one. But I don't hear anybody telling us not to drive......

Eat properly, follow basic health care procedures like washing hands, cover your mouth when coughing or sneezing, avoid obviously sick people if possible, drink lots of fluids (rum is a fluid!), and stay well. Take the vaccine if you feel you need it; personally, I've never had any of the flu vaccines and I've stayed healthy anyway. I'll see some of you — I hope — at Alpine Valley.

-"BB"-

I just went to the post office. I used the do-it-yourself machine because the post office in Rockefeller Center is a madhouse at lunchtime. The woman using the machine just before me sneezed and didn't cover her mouth. I wanted to kick her in the a$$ after I banged her head against the wall a couple of times. What's wrong with people?

So far, we dont have it here in australia - some people are getting tested, however, I travel on trains every day that people are travelling on from our international airport. I am trusting our authorities to keep it in check - however, should it hit here in force (ie not a couple of isolated cases) - being in a high risk group for flu (asthma) - I dont care how long I sit in traffic for, I am driving to work! I sit every day on a train while people have bad hygeine - coughing in the open etc.

There are certain terms that really need to be reserved as "OMMFGTSHHTF!!!!" flags.

"Tragedy". Not everything is a tragedy, senseless or otherwise. Some of what happens is unfortunate, some horrific, some sad, but very few things that occur truely meet the meaning of the word.

"Serial killer". Just because a guy (or girl) goes out and shoots several people in the same incident or incidents in close proximity location and time-wise to each other.. it is not a serial murder case. The only thing connecting the victims together were that they were in the right place at the wrong time when the lead started flying. Something that goes on for months or years, with the victims sharing a profile.. that is serial killing.

Pandemic: the 1918-1919 Spanish Flu was a pandemic. The Black Death that wiped out 25-30% of Europe was a pandemic. When you say pandemic, it should mean: look to the right, look to the left, one of those folks is not going to be there if you look again in a month. Think wagons in the streets with people calling, "bring out your dead" and the sky black with smoke from the pyres.

We may have an epidemic right now, or at least a potential one. So far, the number of folks worldwide who are reported as cases are fewer than the number of folks who died last year of normal, regular influenza.

Could it get worse if we don't take some common-sense precautions? yes. could it get worse and go pandemic? sure if the virus manages to mix and reshuffle the genetic sequence to combine the best (or worst) features of a good infection: persistent, airborne, and stealth contagion (infection to appearance of infection has a week or more, but is still being spread within 12 hours of actual infection). Not something we can affect, not even by killing off all the pigs like they did in Egypt...

Right now, the majority of people delivering news talking points are brain-damaged from huffing their hairspray getting made up for their 'show'; have no thinking ability beyond balancing their checkbook and what colour shoes to wear with what colour suit; and probably haven't taken more than an introductory math or science course since they were in Jr. High School. Watching news channels that make every story a 30 second soundbyte is just a way to guarantee you are going to have a bad day.

Only silly people are worried about this. How many people a year die from the flu in the US????? Thousands, thats how many. Do the research and look it up. Yet we have people panicking for no reason. And Joe Biden, come on, 99% of the stuff from his mouth is stupid. Unless you are among those who do feel that it is better to raise taxes on those who took chances and made decisions in their life that allowed them to make money.

Staying in touch with the CDC may be contributing to the hype. Or it may not be just hype. Be careful.

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/

And consider this.
I was heading to Isle of Palms Saturday, April 25, via I-26 and the Cuz
Bridge. Of course Charleston looked like a tropical destination that day
from atop the bridge. It was a beautiful day and the sky was clear. There
wasn't a cloud in sight. Sails dotted the harbor along with wakes of power
boats and Fort Sumter was easily visible standing guard at the harbor
entrance.

A cruise ship was docked at the State Ports Authority terminal and I began
to wonder where she had been. The likelihood of it having been to Mexico
was slim. But I quickly realized that it really didn't matter. Even if the ship
had been to the Caribbean it surely could have passengers aboard who had interacted with
passengers from other cruise ships at a busy port-of-call, and those other
passengers may have been to Mexico or been in contact with other cruisers
who had. And now those travelers were being dumped off in Charleston for a
bit to go shoulder to shoulder with other tourists and Charlestonians at and
around The Market. Although cruise ships are large and roomy they are still
a great place for contagious diseases to spread like wildfire.

A quick internet check revealed that the cruise ship was The Norwegian
Majesty. She holds about 2000 souls including passengers and crew. So even
if the ship arrived empty, the chance for about 1400 cruisers boarding that
day was real and they began an immediate interaction with a crew of 600 who
had called on ports where they may have been exposed to Swine Flu. I think
their return date is May 2. Let's hope they don't bring home an unwelcomed
bug.

bobandjodi wrote:Only silly people are worried about this. How many people a year die from the flu in the US????? Thousands, thats how many. Do the research and look it up. Yet we have people panicking for no reason. And Joe Biden, come on, 99% of the stuff from his mouth is stupid. Unless you are among those who do feel that it is better to raise taxes on those who took chances and made decisions in their life that allowed them to make money.

you know, you had it right up to the "yet we have people...". then, you evidently couldn't make it a full minute without spitting something barely related, but fully Faux out there.

Try to stay focused on the topic at hand: Concert cancellations and health concerns.

It's not always political, and you don't need to take it that direction. If you want to flog your skippy with stuff like that onscreen, there are other webboards.

"Flog your skippy". I like that. Mind if I borrow it from time to time?

palmettopirate wrote:Staying in touch with the CDC may be contributing to the hype. Or it may not be just hype. Be careful.

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/

Exactly. It is good to question what one reads or hears. However, I keep in mind the CDC looks at trends and use maps for where the cases are reported and include data of any travel and contacts. They may see something that raises a flag.

Here's the answer to the question about what the big deal is with swine flu since so many people die from the flu each year.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30423369/

You simply have to glean what you will from all this stuff and do what is in your best interest and the interest of those around you.

We have the best sources of early warning info we've ever had. When I was young we didn't have immediate access to info and stuff would kinda sneak up on us. Now that we have quick info we seem to want to avoid it or go into denial. Same with hurricanes. These days we know they're coming and people still choose to ride'em out.

Be very wary of what you post and hope does not happen. My wife is a pharmacist on the board of 1st responders here in the Twin Cities. We have been getting daily emails about the status of what is going on. This virus has the potential to mutate very quickly and become a killing machine. That is what all the fuss is over. Now not saying it will, be she is on Red alert to be called upon at any moment. The potential is real, what happens only time will tell.

LIPH wrote:"Flog your skippy". I like that. Mind if I borrow it from time to time?

feel free

I'd pay $$$ to see Larry beat up a nasty sneezer in the P.O.

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Biden's office has clarified his statements:

A bit off topic, but does anyone know if there is a count published of how many times Biden's office has had to clarify statements in the first 100 days?

z-man wrote:

labatt1876 wrote:

JustDucky wrote:Wasn't there some bird flu last year that everyone went ape s h i t over? This is nothing. Again. Because of the media it's been blown past any iota of proportion.

This is actually much worse than Bird Flu. Bird Flu is not easily transferrable from one person to another, the swing flu is mutated and passes easily from one person to another

I'm calling BS here.

more easily transferrable - yes, the mammalian strains are always more easily transferrable
more lethal - no

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health published genetic sequence data Monday morning of flu samples isolated from patients in California and Texas, and thousands of scientists immediately began downloading the information. Comparisons to known killers -- such as the 1918 strain and the highly lethal H5N1 avian virus -- have since provided welcome news."

"the current outbreak of the H1N1 virus, which emerged in San Diego and southern Mexico late last month, may not even do as much damage as the run-of-the-mill flu outbreaks that occur each winter without much fanfare."

Yeah, I gotta agree....the Bird Flu killed 6 out of 10 people that were infected, while the Swine Flu is killing less than 1 in 10. Definitely not worse.
On the subject of Biden running his mouth.....what a moron! Sorry Joe, but you don't get a personal opinion while you're in the White House. Save it til you get out of office and then put it in your memoirs.
What he said is the opposite of that the CDC and the White House is saying. I'm sure the NYC fly-by isn't the only thing that's pi$$ed off the President this week, and after the a$$ chewing Joe so rightly deserves, he'll probably need to go to his tailor to have his pant size adjusted.
So much for the White House bragging earlier this week that Joe hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth since February.