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Speaking of Glenn Beck did anyone hear what this wacko said the other night.

Beck and that other loony tune ought to be charged with treason.

UAHparrothead wrote:Speaking of Glenn Beck did anyone hear what this wacko said the other night.

Beck and that other loony tune ought to be charged with treason.

Glenn Beck is a wacko - NO - I don't believe it.

Wino you know wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

lati2d wrote:

East Texas Parrothead wrote:When the history books are written, they will give more ink to the Palin pick than to the Obama win. It was the worst mistake in presidential campaign history.

Had McCain picked anyone of the qualified people, Obama might not be in the White House and Garry would be a happy man.

Thank GOD - Garry is not a happy man!

I'm ALWAYS happy.
Just not as happy as I was from 1981-1989.

What I DON'T understand is that the Democrats have their boy in the white house (okay, poor choice of words), they have control of the congress, and now with the nudniks in Minnesota blessing us with Herman F'ing Munster, a super majority in the senate, yet they still find things to p*ss and moan about.
What am I missing here?

And, for the record, McCain never had a chance, no matter WHO he picked.
The Republicans failed to learn their lesson in 1996 with Bob Dole.
The voters of today don't care how great of an American you are-if you're past a certain age, to them, you should be enroute to the glue factory.
Hopefully in 2012, they'll nominate someone like Glenn Beck, and give us a fighting chance.
Also, I was all set to vote for Ron Paul until McCain chose Governor Palin. THAT'S the only reason he got my vote.

I disagree, Garry. I think he had a GREAT chance to beat "the boy" now in the White House. Had he picked a tested, moderate it would have been a horse race. Saying he never had a chance tosses out the possibility that he might have made a bad choice.

Wino you know wrote:

MammaBear wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

lati2d wrote:I'm not attacking her or her family. The fact is that she was not even remotely qualified to be Vice President - let alone President. If she looked like Sen. Barbara Mikulski - she would never have been nominated.
Say Good nite Mrs. Palin.

And this inept socialist dweeb we ended up with IS qualified to be C-IN-C???

PLEASE!

I was going to say something similiar but you seem to have that covered....

Okay, I'll marry you.
How does next Saturday sound?
XOXO XOXO

Shall I invite my hubby?

MammaBear wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

MammaBear wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

lati2d wrote:I'm not attacking her or her family. The fact is that she was not even remotely qualified to be Vice President - let alone President. If she looked like Sen. Barbara Mikulski - she would never have been nominated.
Say Good nite Mrs. Palin.

And this inept socialist dweeb we ended up with IS qualified to be C-IN-C???

PLEASE!

I was going to say something similiar but you seem to have that covered....

Okay, I'll marry you.
How does next Saturday sound?
XOXO XOXO

Shall I invite my hubby?

Absolutely.
I could always fix him up with my sister.
OR NOT. I sure he's very happy with the choice he's made.

East Texas Parrothead wrote:I disagree, Garry. I think he had a GREAT chance to beat "the boy" now in the White House. Had he picked a tested, moderate it would have been a horse race. Saying he never had a chance tosses out the possibility that he might have made a bad choice.

There was NO WAY McCain was going to win the presidency.
Between the media who were all in bed with Obama from day one, the dead people, the illegals, the girly-men, and the liberal housewives who, for the most part, vote with their libidos, especially when there's a studly looking guy on the ticket who "loves" them more than their husbands/sperm donors, there was no way Obama was going to lose.

Frankly, I'm surprised the election was as close as it was.

And I was very serious when I said I really can't why so many Democrats are so upset these days when everything is going their way.
I didn't say it to be funny-I meant it. What am I missing?

One word.

"WOOOOOFREAKIN'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"

Palin is a fuctard who can barely run her household, much less a city, state, or our country.

East Texas Parrothead wrote:It's almost as if she said, "Take that, mainstream media. You won't have Sarah Palin to kick around anymore."

Look what happened to the last person who said, "You won't have (name) to kick around any more." *TWO* terms, as I recall. Although he left office under a cloud, within twenty years history was viewing him in a far more favorable light — and by the time he assumed room temperature he was being looked on as an elder statesman. And all the while cashing his gov't pension checks (in addition to whatever he collected in speaker's fees and book royalties), and enjoying SecSvce protection as a former POTUS.

Nice gig, if you can get it.

-"BB"-

Lightning Bolt wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

NYCPORT wrote:Damn it! This p*** me off! Now it's going to be much harder to find video of her making an ass of herself and for and me to laugh at.
This woman is a train wreck waiting to happen, and an idiot.

Wanna borrow my glasses?
Al Frankken is NOT a woman.

..and neither is Fred "Gopher" Grandy

... where once playing an idiot clown on TV didn't stop your state of Iowa from electing him to Congress, repeatedly
.. so I wouldn't so quick to throw stones

I met Representative Grandy of Iowa one time. I was impressed, and apparently so were many others. He did make a relatively credible run for governor of Iowa, remember?

I also remember one of the stories that made the rounds of the Iowa papers (and some others) during his incumbency. He was once asked if he let it concern him that when he made an appearance, many people would come because of his "Love Boat" fame rather than because of his political office. He was said to have answered, "They may come because they want to see 'Gopher', but they're going to end up hearing my views on farm policy".

-"BB"-

I really was suprised that she stepped down. I remember during the election in my office that a lot of women were split on what she had to say. Some loved her, some thought she said women back to the 1950's.

I really have to think that the next hope of the Republican Party is going to be Bobby Jindhal from Louisana

Garry--I really have to disagree with you, and agree with ETP-McCain did have a chance, though not a great one. And yes, Palin may have given McCain the conservative vote that was in danger of sitting out, but it also cost him dearly. A lot of the women who were angry that the democrats didn't choose Hillary, and who said they would vote for McCain felt pandered to by the choice, and were disenfranchised by much of what she had to say. Palin was not yet ready for prime time, was ill served by those advising her (or chose to ignore there advice) and became a drag on the ticket. It wasn't McCain's age that was the issue--it was the thought of Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency of a man that age.

Come on. McCain never had a chance. The true hard core conservative republicans were not energized by Bob Dole II. There was no way McCain could get them behind him. His disastrous amnesty bill sealed his fate. The democrats had a candidate they believed in that actually ran a good campaign. The Republicans were too set on effecting the Democrat primaries instead of properly vetting their candidates. They allowed the states that allow open primary voting to select a warm jello candidate and derail the momentum that Romney or Huckabee were building. The cross-dresser Rudy also screwed up Florida. McCain looked like he stole John Kerry's strategy. Oh yeah, I am also furious with GWB for selling out on the Republican principles and letting spending go through the roof while expanding the federal government's reach.

ejr wrote:Garry--I really have to disagree with you, and agree with ETP-McCain did have a chance, though not a great one. And yes, Palin may have given McCain the conservative vote that was in danger of sitting out, but it also cost him dearly. A lot of the women who were angry that the democrats didn't choose Hillary, and who said they would vote for McCain felt pandered to by the choice, and were disenfranchised by much of what she had to say. Palin was not yet ready for prime time, was ill served by those advising her (or chose to ignore there advice) and became a drag on the ticket. It wasn't McCain's age that was the issue--it was the thought of Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency of a man that age.

You raise some good points, Ellen, but on this one we'll have to agree to disagree.
I've got to go with Skibo and say McCain had no chance, and, again, I'm amazed that the election was as close as it was.
While some women voters may have gravitated toward McCain, and others away from him, I think what it came down to in the end is the party loyalists and the charisma of Obama.
Republican voters have a VERY nasty habit of "sitting out" an election if their guy (or gal) isn't at the top of the ticket, rather than consider the consequences if the other party gets elected.
Democrats, on the other hand have always had the Republicans over a barrel simply because they have more party loyalists than the Republicans ever dreamed of.
Sure, lots of women (and men too, I suppose) were upset that Hillary didn't get the nomination, but I think even STEVIE WONDER could see she would absolutely be tapped for a high level post, if not the V.P. slot, so they went with Obama, rather than risk having a Republican at Pennsylvania Avenue for another four years.
(And people can say what they want, but I'm going to my grave beliveing that if she would've thrown Bill's sorry a$$ out after the Lewisnsky circus, we'd have us another President Clinton in the White House. She made a lot of people angry when she "forgave" him for the sake of convenience, and, no doubt, what she thought would further her own political agenda.
That being said, Democrat voters have always done what Republican voters always SHOULD'VE done, and that's stay loyal to the party.
I garuntee that in 2012, if Mitt Romney gets the nomination, the Mike Huckabee supporters will have a hissy fit and stay home, and vice versa.
It hasn't hurt the Democrats that they've been nominating guys with CHARISMA lately either.
Look at the last few elections:

1980-Jimmy Carter, although he was the incumbent, his charisma was nothing compared to Ronaldus Magnimus. REPUBLICANS WIN.

1984-Walter Mondale, Sir Gloom & Doom himself. Charisma absolutely non-existant. REPUBLICANS WIN.

1988-Michale Dukakis. Charisma? PLEASE! REPUBLICANS WIN.

1992-Bill Clinton. Charisma and then some. DEMOCRATS WIN.

1996-Ditto. DEMOCRATS WIN.

2000-Al Gore. A man with the charisma of Frankenstein. REPUBLICANS WIN.

2004-John Kerry. No charisma, and the Republicans win again, but give the guy a break. He's from Massachusetts.

2008-Barack Obama. NOW do you see where I'm going with this?

Between their charisma and the party loyalists in their camp, if the Democrats quit nominating people like Dukakis, Kerry, Mondale, Gore, et. al., they'll probably have the White House from now until I get laid again.

Skibo wrote:Come on. McCain never had a chance. The true hard core conservative republicans were not energized by Bob Dole II. There was no way McCain could get them behind him. His disastrous amnesty bill sealed his fate. The democrats had a candidate they believed in that actually ran a good campaign. The Republicans were too set on effecting the Democrat primaries instead of properly vetting their candidates. They allowed the states that allow open primary voting to select a warm jello candidate and derail the momentum that Romney or Huckabee were building. The cross-dresser Rudy also screwed up Florida. McCain looked like he stole John Kerry's strategy. Oh yeah, I am also furious with GWB for selling out on the Republican principles and letting spending go through the roof while expanding the federal government's reach.

I agree with most except for calling Rudy a cross-dresser, which is a complete lack of respect to someone who the majority of our country looked to for leadership on 9/11. He was a person who wasn't afraid to make fun of himself and appeared on episodes of Seinfeld and SNL. What a shame we have a politician who can actually make fun of himself.

And Rudy came in third in Florida. So how did he screw up Florida exactly? His campaign screwed him up by putting all of his eggs in the Florida basket and my turncoat Governor got behind McCain because he lacks a backbone IMO. Romney put up strong numbers in Florida (came in 2nd), but when the Governor thew his support to McCain, it pulled out a small majority of votes for him.

Bicycle Bill wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

NYCPORT wrote:Damn it! This p*** me off! Now it's going to be much harder to find video of her making an ass of herself and for and me to laugh at.
This woman is a train wreck waiting to happen, and an idiot.

Wanna borrow my glasses?
Al Frankken is NOT a woman.

..and neither is Fred "Gopher" Grandy

... where once playing an idiot clown on TV didn't stop your state of Iowa from electing him to Congress, repeatedly
.. so I wouldn't so quick to throw stones

I met Representative Grandy of Iowa one time. I was impressed, and apparently so were many others. He did make a relatively credible run for governor of Iowa, remember?

I also remember one of the stories that made the rounds of the Iowa papers (and some others) during his incumbency. He was once asked if he let it concern him that when he made an appearance, many people would come because of his "Love Boat" fame rather than because of his political office. He was said to have answered, "They may come because they want to see 'Gopher', but they're going to end up hearing my views on farm policy".

-"BB"-

Thank you for illustrating my point.
It was not about electing some character we were introduced to on night-time television,
it was about HEARING and RECOGNIZING the substance of one's platform that draws the intelligence of voters to the forefront.

Let me see if I can follow the logic:

Glen Beck thinks that what this country really needs is another successful Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil, causing a grassroots reaction to force Congress and the White House to do a better job of protecting the U.S. from another successful Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil.

I watch Glen Beck. I laugh. I cry.

Wino you know wrote:
2000-Al Gore. A man with the charisma of Frankenstein. REPUBLICANS WIN.

Garry, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.

Frankenstein - assuming you're referring to the monster and not the man who created him - had the ability to inspire strong emotions in everyone who encountered him.

Al Gore was no Frankenstein's Monster. He was the political equivalent of Ambien.

And I say this as someone who actually agrees with a lot of what he says.

Now Dr. Frankenstein...I might be more inclined to agree with you on that one.

As for Gov. Palin...I watched the raw video of her speech, and I couldn't make heads nor tails of what she was trying to say. The last time I saw someone with that type of rapid-fire, disjointed delivery, he was smokin' something *really* strong.

I'm just sayin'.

flyboy55 wrote:Let me see if I can follow the logic:

Glen Beck thinks that what this country really needs is another successful Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil, causing a grassroots reaction to force Congress and the White House to do a better job of protecting the U.S. from another successful Al Qaeda attack on U.S. soil.

I watch Glen Beck. I laugh. I cry.

Actually, Glen Beck has a point. If Al Qaeda executed an attack on US soil, during which Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and a few of their most rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth compadres were killed, I think it's *exactly* what the US needs.

Either that, or if the extremists on *both* ends of the political spectrum would stop trying to destroy and dismiss everyone who disagrees with them and start learning common courtesy and respect again.

But that's even less likely.

Glenn Beck is a nutcase. Remember him predicting the end of the world a few years back?
Palin could not win the republican nomination. She's gonna have the "quitter" title hung on her by her republican opponents.
But I don't think shes gonna run anyway.

ph4ever wrote:

ScarletB wrote:I really don't think I can take another go round in 3.5 more years
ugh, I was really hoping her 15 minutes was over.

I agree completely.

Count me in!