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sunseeker wrote:simply put...

no.

HD18JBGuy wrote:I am a born and raised Detroit boy and now a native of Chicago for the past six, going on seven years. I have been to many venues to see Buffett including Cinci, Detroit, East Troy, Indianapolis, St. Louis, and many others, and I have to say that neither Detroit or Chicago are my favorites. Alpine Valley tops the 10 or 12 venues I have been to for a Buffett show.

The only exception might be Wrigley Field for the historical reasons and the awesome setlist at both shows. I mean, after all, it is Wrigley Field and Buffett was the first concert ever to be played there. Being that he is a Cubs fan, and has worked and was friends with Chicago greats such as Steve Goodman and John Prine, it was even more fitting.

But for the over all "Buffett Experience", from tailgating to venue, I still think Alpine Valley in East Troy, Wisconsin is top notch and #1 on my list. The only other venue I really desire to hit is Great Woods. Someday...

ejr wrote:

PetalMel wrote:Just curious to see if we are just being Pine Knob snobs, of if other Parrotheads who travel to other venues find that they like the one at home the best. We were at Chicago this past Saturday and I just couldn't seem to get over how they were parking people there. We ended up somewhat boxed in about four cars deep, even though they did "grant" us about 10 feet of space between each two rows of cars in which to "tail gate." It was also strange that everyone had to park nose to butt so to speak, so if you were in the front car in the double row, you ended up "nose gating" rather than tail gating. Didn't work well for us since we had a pool in the back of the truck...but the car behind us got its windshield washed a few times... Not that is was a bad thing, just very different than what we are used to in Detroit where we almost always have more than enough room to goof around.

A few years back we went to Cincy and loved the tailgate experience but wasn't that impressed with the venue itself. In fact, we wandered out of the venue early after about the sixth drunk person almost knocked us down on the lawn (we must have picked a terrible spot..) anyway, the acoustics from the lot were awesome, and much clearer than inside.

So all of this got me thinking, is it just being "out of our usual element" that makes it not as much fun? Is it just me or have others had the feeling of "glad I went to see him somewhere else, but it just isn't the same as being home..."

Thanks for your insight. Like I said, I'm just curious if my feathers are a bit more sensitive than necessary....


(Regardless, I would NEVER pass up tickets to a concert at any venue if I was able to attend....I may have sensitive feathers, but I'm not stupid! )

Just to defend my hometown venue (where I think the staff do a remarkable job of making it a great day for everyone). 8,000 parking spaces for 28,000 people...many wanting tons of space for tailgating. They have to deal with the space they have, and that means that we can't get as much space as we would like.

PetalMel wrote:

ejr wrote:

PetalMel wrote:Just curious to see if we are just being Pine Knob snobs, of if other Parrotheads who travel to other venues find that they like the one at home the best. We were at Chicago this past Saturday and I just couldn't seem to get over how they were parking people there. We ended up somewhat boxed in about four cars deep, even though they did "grant" us about 10 feet of space between each two rows of cars in which to "tail gate." It was also strange that everyone had to park nose to butt so to speak, so if you were in the front car in the double row, you ended up "nose gating" rather than tail gating. Didn't work well for us since we had a pool in the back of the truck...but the car behind us got its windshield washed a few times... Not that is was a bad thing, just very different than what we are used to in Detroit where we almost always have more than enough room to goof around.

A few years back we went to Cincy and loved the tailgate experience but wasn't that impressed with the venue itself. In fact, we wandered out of the venue early after about the sixth drunk person almost knocked us down on the lawn (we must have picked a terrible spot..) anyway, the acoustics from the lot were awesome, and much clearer than inside.

So all of this got me thinking, is it just being "out of our usual element" that makes it not as much fun? Is it just me or have others had the feeling of "glad I went to see him somewhere else, but it just isn't the same as being home..."

Thanks for your insight. Like I said, I'm just curious if my feathers are a bit more sensitive than necessary....


(Regardless, I would NEVER pass up tickets to a concert at any venue if I was able to attend....I may have sensitive feathers, but I'm not stupid! )

Just to defend my hometown venue (where I think the staff do a remarkable job of making it a great day for everyone). 8,000 parking spaces for 28,000 people...many wanting tons of space for tailgating. They have to deal with the space they have, and that means that we can't get as much space as we would like.

I absolutely agree with you, Ellen (BTW, sorry we never met--I had full intentions of getting around more, but ended up having so much fun with my neighbors that time got away from us...) We chatted with some of the parking folks and they told us the horror stories of last year when the lot literally filled by 1 p.m. and late comers were forced to park on the sides of streets and walk. Now THAT would have absolutely freaked me out. I have to admit that it was just different and not at all what I expected, but the crowd was great, the lot cleared really easily after the concert, and other than feeling like we were sardines, it was a great time.

Oh, and thanks to others that are helping me feel better about my feelings. Nothing like group therapy to remind you that you are okay (it's just everyone else with the problem... )

Dr.Corona wrote:To your original point Mel......I think they're ALWAYS is that comfort level you have at your local venue (or the venue that you've been to the most).
As you make the multiple trips to that One Particular Venue, you learn all the tricks & nuances of that venue, thus making it easier for YOU to find what makes the tailgating & concert experience work for YOU. You learn how to adapt to that venues shortfalls & take advantage of that venues strong points.
Have only been to the Nati other than the Detroit venues (DTE/Palace) so maybe I'm talking out my azz, but I believe it's just natural you're more comfortable in more familiar surroundings.

nutmeg wrote:Just goes to show you how we can be in the same place an see something totally different

When I think of Alpine, all I remember is being nearly crushed to death by the horseback herders and missing a bunch of the concert because they were trying funnel a gagillion people through one tiny area. We left to go in plenty early too. And I spent way too much time in restroom line too ( and the restroom was filthy)

However nearly everyone else talks about how wonderful Alpine is. (It always makes me wonder if I was in some other place from the one everyone loves.)

nutmeg wrote:Just goes to show you how we can be in the same place an see something totally different

When I think of Alpine, all I remember is being nearly crushed to death by the horseback herders and missing a bunch of the concert because they were trying funnel a gagillion people through one tiny area. We left to go in plenty early too. And I spent way too much time in restroom line too ( and the restroom was filthy)

However nearly everyone else talks about how wonderful Alpine is. (It always makes me wonder if I was in some other place from the one everyone loves.)

Carolinadreamin' wrote:We are still doing a detailed study of venues......intial opinions continued to be varied.....it may take years and loads of money but we're determined to render a complete survey......we'll let you know our findings at the conclusion of the study......

Carolinadreamin' wrote:We are still doing a detailed study of venues......intial opinions continued to be varied.....it may take years and loads of money but we're determined to render a complete survey......we'll let you know our findings at the conclusion of the study......