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I was in Vegas the weekend of the 17th playing with friends. We decided to go ahead and go with the booked plans after the concert was shelved.

Went to M'ville for breakfast one morning. Had a old Buffett concert T on and the employees were going overboard to apologize for the concert cancellation. I assured them I knew it wasn't their fault. The ones I talked to (and a couple seemed to speak from actual knowledge) believed that the cancellation came from Jimmy's camp (he's under contract with MGM for the concerts, and there's really no other venue on the strip that will work), and that Jimmy had actually paid a penalty to MGM because of the cancellations. They also projected a $4 million loss to the restuarant because of the cancellations, and corporate had not (as of then) granted them any leeway on their budget because of the loss.

Still, I went down to Freemont on Friday/Saturday. Played at La Bayou. Saw the New Rat Pack. Had a blast with friends, and pretty much forgot there wasn't a concert.

oceanstate wrote:I was in Vegas the weekend of the 17th playing with friends. We decided to go ahead and go with the booked plans after the concert was shelved.

Went to M'ville for breakfast one morning. Had a old Buffett concert T on and the employees were going overboard to apologize for the concert cancellation. I assured them I knew it wasn't their fault. The ones I talked to (and a couple seemed to speak from actual knowledge) believed that the cancellation came from Jimmy's camp (he's under contract with MGM for the concerts, and there's really no other venue on the strip that will work), and that Jimmy had actually paid a penalty to MGM because of the cancellations. They also projected a $4 million loss to the restuarant because of the cancellations, and corporate had not (as of then) granted them any leeway on their budget because of the loss.

Still, I went down to Freemont on Friday/Saturday. Played at La Bayou. Saw the New Rat Pack. Had a blast with friends, and pretty much forgot there wasn't a concert.

Thanks oceanstate

All anyone is asking for is an explanation...maybe someday. Glad you had a great time anyway!

TraderRick wrote:

oceanstate wrote:I was in Vegas the weekend of the 17th playing with friends. We decided to go ahead and go with the booked plans after the concert was shelved.

Went to M'ville for breakfast one morning. Had a old Buffett concert T on and the employees were going overboard to apologize for the concert cancellation. I assured them I knew it wasn't their fault. The ones I talked to (and a couple seemed to speak from actual knowledge) believed that the cancellation came from Jimmy's camp (he's under contract with MGM for the concerts, and there's really no other venue on the strip that will work), and that Jimmy had actually paid a penalty to MGM because of the cancellations. They also projected a $4 million loss to the restuarant because of the cancellations, and corporate had not (as of then) granted them any leeway on their budget because of the loss.

Still, I went down to Freemont on Friday/Saturday. Played at La Bayou. Saw the New Rat Pack. Had a blast with friends, and pretty much forgot there wasn't a concert.

Thanks oceanstate

All anyone is asking for is an explanation...maybe someday. Glad you had a great time anyway!

Do you really want an explanation if it meant the end of Jimmy touring forever? p*** off Live Nation and that would be the result as they control the concert business today.

In the examples I linked earlier in the thread, Kanye West and Def Leppard didn't offer explanations either for tours cancelled after tickets went on sale. There's a reason artists don't do it....and I'm sure its because their management advises them it would kill their career.

dean_siu wrote:

TraderRick wrote:

oceanstate wrote:I was in Vegas the weekend of the 17th playing with friends. We decided to go ahead and go with the booked plans after the concert was shelved.

Went to M'ville for breakfast one morning. Had a old Buffett concert T on and the employees were going overboard to apologize for the concert cancellation. I assured them I knew it wasn't their fault. The ones I talked to (and a couple seemed to speak from actual knowledge) believed that the cancellation came from Jimmy's camp (he's under contract with MGM for the concerts, and there's really no other venue on the strip that will work), and that Jimmy had actually paid a penalty to MGM because of the cancellations. They also projected a $4 million loss to the restuarant because of the cancellations, and corporate had not (as of then) granted them any leeway on their budget because of the loss.

Still, I went down to Freemont on Friday/Saturday. Played at La Bayou. Saw the New Rat Pack. Had a blast with friends, and pretty much forgot there wasn't a concert.

Thanks oceanstate

All anyone is asking for is an explanation...maybe someday. Glad you had a great time anyway!

Do you really want an explanation if it meant the end of Jimmy touring forever? p*** off Live Nation and that would be the result as they control the concert business today.

In the examples I linked earlier in the thread, Kanye West and Def Leppard didn't offer explanations either for tours cancelled after tickets went on sale. There's a reason artists don't do it....and I'm sure its because their management advises them it would kill their career.

Call me naive, Dean ...but I guess I've always fancied Jimmy as master of his own universe... Live Nation or not. Seems what you're telling me is that Live Nation is this mafioso-styled entity that is so frickin' strong & image sensitive that they would blackball a money-making machine like Jimmy ( with a 30yr. concert history) if he DARED explain to his fans that simple finances and economic constraints have caused him to cancel these concerts. That's wild- I'm sorry it just is.

TraderRick wrote:

dean_siu wrote:

TraderRick wrote:

oceanstate wrote:I was in Vegas the weekend of the 17th playing with friends. We decided to go ahead and go with the booked plans after the concert was shelved.

Went to M'ville for breakfast one morning. Had a old Buffett concert T on and the employees were going overboard to apologize for the concert cancellation. I assured them I knew it wasn't their fault. The ones I talked to (and a couple seemed to speak from actual knowledge) believed that the cancellation came from Jimmy's camp (he's under contract with MGM for the concerts, and there's really no other venue on the strip that will work), and that Jimmy had actually paid a penalty to MGM because of the cancellations. They also projected a $4 million loss to the restuarant because of the cancellations, and corporate had not (as of then) granted them any leeway on their budget because of the loss.

Still, I went down to Freemont on Friday/Saturday. Played at La Bayou. Saw the New Rat Pack. Had a blast with friends, and pretty much forgot there wasn't a concert.

Thanks oceanstate

All anyone is asking for is an explanation...maybe someday. Glad you had a great time anyway!

Do you really want an explanation if it meant the end of Jimmy touring forever? p*** off Live Nation and that would be the result as they control the concert business today.

In the examples I linked earlier in the thread, Kanye West and Def Leppard didn't offer explanations either for tours cancelled after tickets went on sale. There's a reason artists don't do it....and I'm sure its because their management advises them it would kill their career.

Call me naive, Dean ...but I guess I've always fancied Jimmy as master of his own universe... Live Nation or not. Seems what you're telling me is that Live Nation is this mafioso-styled entity that is so frickin' strong & image sensitive that they would blackball a money-making machine like Jimmy ( with a 30yr. concert history) if he DARED explain to his fans that simple finances and economic constraints have caused him to cancel these concerts. That's wild- I'm sorry it just is.

There was a reason given for Kanye's cancellation in Rolling Stone plus numerous other publications

Def Leoppard did announce that their tour was cancelled because of "personal reasons" and that they agonized over the decision. There's quite a few links on that one. THIS is better than what was given to parrotheads

When Brett Michaels had to postphone 2 solo gigs it was announced and the reason given

Aerosmith issued a statement on show cancellations when Steven Tyler fell of the stage in Sturgis

Heck even when Axl Rose fell off the wagon numerous times GnR even offered up some sort of explanation even though everyone new he was just too stoned.


The simple fact is that if a musician really cares about the people that got him/her/them to where they are they will offer some type of explanation.

I've actually moved past the "I want an explanation" thing. I get that, for whatever reason, a response ain't comin. I can deal with it.

I do, however, have to question the wisdom of then agreeing to do a private function in the same city at the same time as the shelved concerts. It seems a bit like you are trying to rub folks' noses in it. I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but you can't disagree that it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

ph4ever wrote:The simple fact is that if a musician really cares about the people that got him/her/them to where they are they will offer some type of explanation.

I disagree that it's a simple fact... in my opinion, it's just your opinion. Obviously, there's a whole other camp who agrees changes must happen for a good reason, and accept it. Especially before tickets going on sale.

However, an explanation was given:

Margaritaville.com wrote:

OCTOBER
It has come to our attention that some fans have been disappointed to find that the shows tentatively scheduled for October are no longer going to happen due to unanticipated scheduling conflicts. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you and look forward to seeing you back in Las Vegas and on the West Coast in 2010!

Scheduling conflicts. Nuff said.

In my opinion, the A-B shows in St Louis and Vegas, as well as the benefit in California, constitute scheduling conflicts.

I don't understand why some people still want / expect more than that.

Is there a set list and some videos yet from it?

I am so glad Margaret and John got to see this. Hey he is of an age when I am just glad we can still see him.

Tiki Bar wrote:

ph4ever wrote:The simple fact is that if a musician really cares about the people that got him/her/them to where they are they will offer some type of explanation.

I disagree that it's a simple fact... in my opinion, it's just your opinion. Obviously, there's a whole other camp who agrees changes must happen for a good reason, and accept it. Especially before tickets going on sale.

However, an explanation was given:

Margaritaville.com wrote:

OCTOBER
It has come to our attention that some fans have been disappointed to find that the shows tentatively scheduled for October are no longer going to happen due to unanticipated scheduling conflicts. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you and look forward to seeing you back in Las Vegas and on the West Coast in 2010!

Scheduling conflicts. Nuff said.

In my opinion, the A-B shows in St Louis and Vegas, as well as the benefit in California, constitute scheduling conflicts.

I don't understand why some people still want / expect more than that.

And I don't understand why some people hold him up as some kind of a God that can do no wrong. I swear some people would find excuses for him if he raped a child while attending a Michael Vick dogfight. Going under your line of thought regarding conflicts just fortifies the statement made earlier:

oceanstate wrote:I do, however, have to question the wisdom of then agreeing to do a private function in the same city at the same time as the shelved concerts. It seems a bit like you are trying to rub folks' noses in it. I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but you can't disagree that it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

ph4ever wrote:

Tiki Bar wrote:

ph4ever wrote:The simple fact is that if a musician really cares about the people that got him/her/them to where they are they will offer some type of explanation.

I disagree that it's a simple fact... in my opinion, it's just your opinion. Obviously, there's a whole other camp who agrees changes must happen for a good reason, and accept it. Especially before tickets going on sale.

However, an explanation was given:

Margaritaville.com wrote:

OCTOBER
It has come to our attention that some fans have been disappointed to find that the shows tentatively scheduled for October are no longer going to happen due to unanticipated scheduling conflicts. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you and look forward to seeing you back in Las Vegas and on the West Coast in 2010!

Scheduling conflicts. Nuff said.

In my opinion, the A-B shows in St Louis and Vegas, as well as the benefit in California, constitute scheduling conflicts.

I don't understand why some people still want / expect more than that.

And I don't understand why some people hold him up as some kind of a God that can do no wrong. I swear some people would find excuses for him if he raped a child while attending a Michael Vick dogfight.

I think it's the complete opposite... I think the forgiving fans are the ones who understand he's merely human. We all make mistakes... s*** happens. Big deal. And I think it's the accusatory and resentful fans who hold him up to be some kind of deity, who has failed them so terribly and shattered all of their hope and allusions to his power in their lives. And comparing a couple trivial schedule changes for unticketed concerts to rape and dog fighting is completely insulting. This is small peanuts. I may have gone to Vegas, and may have gone to Orlando. They didn't happen... big deal.

ph4ever wrote:Going under your line of thought regarding conflicts just fortifies the statement made earlier:

oceanstate wrote:I do, however, have to question the wisdom of then agreeing to do a private function in the same city at the same time as the shelved concerts. It seems a bit like you are trying to rub folks' noses in it. I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but you can't disagree that it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

My speculation is that the private function was part of the reason for the cancellation, not a nose rubbing. Again, in my opinion, way extreme thinking. And even os said "I'm sure that wasn't the intent." Like E said...

Elrod wrote:Jimmy has not played a full concert at the stadium, but he did appear there for at least one of the home games. The stadium naming rights and his appearance are an effort to sell more beer. If sales do not improve, Landshark Lager will go bye-bye and Jimmy's merchandising machine will have a tough (if not impossible) time negotiating anything favorable with the corporate world in the future. Jimmy also played two private shows for A-B recently, one in Vegas and one in St. Louis. When The Brewery calls, Jimmy does not have a choice, he plays.

Tiki Bar wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

Tiki Bar wrote:

ph4ever wrote:The simple fact is that if a musician really cares about the people that got him/her/them to where they are they will offer some type of explanation.

I disagree that it's a simple fact... in my opinion, it's just your opinion. Obviously, there's a whole other camp who agrees changes must happen for a good reason, and accept it. Especially before tickets going on sale.

However, an explanation was given:

Margaritaville.com wrote:

OCTOBER
It has come to our attention that some fans have been disappointed to find that the shows tentatively scheduled for October are no longer going to happen due to unanticipated scheduling conflicts. We're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you and look forward to seeing you back in Las Vegas and on the West Coast in 2010!

Scheduling conflicts. Nuff said.

In my opinion, the A-B shows in St Louis and Vegas, as well as the benefit in California, constitute scheduling conflicts.

I don't understand why some people still want / expect more than that.

And I don't understand why some people hold him up as some kind of a God that can do no wrong. I swear some people would find excuses for him if he raped a child while attending a Michael Vick dogfight.

I think it's the complete opposite... I think the forgiving fans are the ones who understand he's merely human. We all make mistakes... s*** happens. Big deal. And I think it's the accusatory and resentful fans who hold him up to be some kind of deity, who has failed them so terribly and shattered all of their hope and allusions to his power in their lives. And comparing a couple trivial schedule changes for unticketed concerts to rape and dog fighting is completely insulting. This is small peanuts. I may have gone to Vegas, and may have gone to Orlando. They didn't happen... big deal.

ph4ever wrote:Going under your line of thought regarding conflicts just fortifies the statement made earlier:

oceanstate wrote:I do, however, have to question the wisdom of then agreeing to do a private function in the same city at the same time as the shelved concerts. It seems a bit like you are trying to rub folks' noses in it. I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but you can't disagree that it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

My speculation is that the private function was part of the reason for the cancellation, not a nose rubbing. Again, in my opinion, way extreme thinking. And even os said "I'm sure that wasn't the intent." Like E said...

Elrod wrote:Jimmy has not played a full concert at the stadium, but he did appear there for at least one of the home games. The stadium naming rights and his appearance are an effort to sell more beer. If sales do not improve, Landshark Lager will go bye-bye and Jimmy's merchandising machine will have a tough (if not impossible) time negotiating anything favorable with the corporate world in the future. Jimmy also played two private shows for A-B recently, one in Vegas and one in St. Louis. When The Brewery calls, Jimmy does not have a choice, he plays.

You do realize that E's statement could also mean that Buffett is becoming a mindless corporate drone and that his reason for playing that gig is because the potential for landshark larger being dropped because of lackluster sales. AB is about the bottom line and if Landshark isn't selling then it will be gone.

Perhaps if I were in the area where Buffett really cares about his fans because of the huge presence of PH clubs (as a reason given by some as to why the west coast fans do not matter and the cancellation of shows is acceptable) I would feel the same as you and can continually make excuses. Or maybe if I hadn't been following him for over 30 years and hearing for the majority of those 30 years about how the fans are important to him I would feel the same as you. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that I am not a buffettbot - never have been and never will. I don't blindly agree with everything anyone does and I can see to good and bad in the majority of people and performers.

ph4ever wrote: You do realize that E's statement could also mean that Buffett is becoming a mindless corporate drone and that his reason for playing that gig is because the potential for landshark larger being dropped because of lackluster sales. AB is about the bottom line and if Landshark isn't selling then it will be gone.

Perhaps if I were in the area where Buffett really cares about his fans because of the huge presence of PH clubs (as a reason given by some as to why the west coast fans do not matter and the cancellation of shows is acceptable) I would feel the same as you and can continually make excuses. Or maybe if I hadn't been following him for over 30 years and hearing for the majority of those 30 years about how the fans are important to him I would feel the same as you. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that I am not a buffettbot - never have been and never will. I don't blindly agree with everything anyone does and I can see to good and bad in the majority of people and performers.

Of course I do. It is what it is. Why ask why? I'll take what he gives. I don't think that makes me a Buffettbot, because I hold him to the same standards as anyone else.

I've been a fan of Jimmy for over 30 years too. I've never joined a parrothead club. I don't feel he's accountable to me for anything... I just thank him for the lifetime of memories, and happily hope there will be more to come. I'm grateful that he's 63 and still kicking ass, not just for me, but for every single person who gets to experience seeing him perform. I don't care if they're a 'true fan', I don't care if they're suits or politicians, I don't care if they know a single word of a single song... as long as he puts a smile on their face. Reminds me of reading some of the reactions of the Anguilla locals... they had no idea who or what he was, but they were amazed by what they saw. It's probably more rewarding any more to play to newcomers, than disgruntled impossible to please 'loyal fans'.

He doesn't know I even exist, but he still makes me feel like he cares about me, for all he continues to give.

Different strokes for different folks. No sense for me to continue talking about it. My point was just that for you, and Trader, and anyone else who wanted an explanation and might have forgotten, an explanation was given. Unanticipated scheduling conflicts.

Tiki Bar wrote:

ph4ever wrote: You do realize that E's statement could also mean that Buffett is becoming a mindless corporate drone and that his reason for playing that gig is because the potential for landshark larger being dropped because of lackluster sales. AB is about the bottom line and if Landshark isn't selling then it will be gone.

Perhaps if I were in the area where Buffett really cares about his fans because of the huge presence of PH clubs (as a reason given by some as to why the west coast fans do not matter and the cancellation of shows is acceptable) I would feel the same as you and can continually make excuses. Or maybe if I hadn't been following him for over 30 years and hearing for the majority of those 30 years about how the fans are important to him I would feel the same as you. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that I am not a buffettbot - never have been and never will. I don't blindly agree with everything anyone does and I can see to good and bad in the majority of people and performers.

Of course I do. It is what it is. Why ask why? I'll take what he gives. I don't think that makes me a Buffettbot, because I hold him to the same standards as anyone else.

I never said you were a buffettbot I said I wasn't. I guess your standards is that it's okay to you for people to basically lie to you? Because that's what the youtube video is when he announced the shows - a lie.

Tiki Bar wrote:I've been a fan of Jimmy for over 30 years too. I've never joined a parrothead club. I don't feel he's accountable to me for anything... I just thank him for the lifetime of memories, and happily hope there will be more to come. I'm grateful that he's 62 and still kicking ass, not just for me, but for every single person who gets to experience seeing him perform. I don't care if they're a 'true fan', I don't care if they're suits or politicians, I don't care if they know a single word of a single song... as long as he puts a smile on their face. Reminds me of reading some of the reactions of the Anguilla locals... they had no idea who or what he was, but they were amazed by what they saw. It's probably more rewarding any more to play to newcomers, than disgruntled impossible to please 'loyal fans'.

He doesn't know I even exist, but he still makes me feel like he cares about me, for all he continues to give.

Different strokes for different folks. No sense for me to continue talking about it. My point was just that for you, and Trader, and anyone else who wanted an explanation and might have forgotten, an explanation was given. Unanticipated scheduling conflicts.

There are quite a number of people, yes even some that post here, that are of the opinion that the quality of merchandise - be it his performances, cds, books or other margaritaville paraphernalia has declined over the past several years while the cost of some items have skyrocketed. There are several of us that would rather spend our money on trop rock artists who actually appear to appreciate their fans. If you want to call us "disgruntled impossible to please loyal fans" go right ahead but you can rest assured that it will be a long long time before a lot of people spend another dime on the corporation as was mentioned earlier when discussing the possible potential for lackluster sales on west coast for the new cd. Just be careful and don't choke on that koolaid.

Tiki Bar wrote:I think it's the complete opposite... I think the forgiving fans are the ones who understand he's merely human. We all make mistakes... s*** happens. Big deal. And I think it's the accusatory and resentful fans who hold him up to be some kind of deity, who has failed them so terribly and shattered all of their hope and allusions to his power in their lives. And comparing a couple trivial schedule changes for unticketed concerts to rape and dog fighting is completely insulting. This is small peanuts. I may have gone to Vegas, and may have gone to Orlando. They didn't happen... big deal.

JoAnn, I completely agree.

ph4ever wrote:Perhaps if I were in the area where Buffett really cares about his fans because of the huge presence of PH clubs (as a reason given by some as to why the west coast fans do not matter and the cancellation of shows is acceptable) I would feel the same as you and can continually make excuses. Or maybe if I hadn't been following him for over 30 years and hearing for the majority of those 30 years about how the fans are important to him I would feel the same as you. I could go on and on but the bottom line is that I am not a buffettbot - never have been and never will. I don't blindly agree with everything anyone does and I can see to good and bad in the majority of people and performers.

I have to say that I am quite surprised that someone would think that Jimmy cares about fans in one part of the country more than in other parts of the country. That makes no sense to me. And I am quite sure that Jimmy would be confused with that comment as well.

And why do people who are not Buffett fans have 46,000+ posts on a board called BuffettNews?

Can we not accept "scheduling conflicts" as the explanation and move on? I would hate to see what reactions would be if his "explanation" was, "I just don't feel like playing there for a bunch of ungrateful, complaining fans!" The fact of the matter is, he didn't play there. There doesn't need to be an explanation.

Michelle you can continue to bait me all you want but it's not going to work. Bottom line it's not your place to either judge me or question why I post here.

Here - maybe this will work on someone else.

Carp and Catfish Bait Recipe
35 putrified nightcrawlers
1 lb. beef liver (liquify in blender)
1 pint sour cream
3 Tbsp. garlic powder
1 package of frozen bread dough (thawed)
2 lbsp. Flour
Large Ziplock Bags
Combine the nightcrawlers, beef liver, sour cream, garlic powder and bread dough. Kneed the dough as you would if you were making the most disgusting loaf of bread ever! Use the extra flour if the dough is too sticky to work with.
Place your stinky dough into a ziplock baggie, make sure that you squeeze all the air out, write on the bag do not open unless you want to PUKE and let ferment for 2 days. Unzip the baggie after the second day to let some of the fermented air out. When you are ready to go fishing...just stick a chunk of the dough onto the hook and reel in the fish!

I just want to remind EVERYONE here that EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions on this subject and to me I really don't see the point in discussing ANY viewpoint anymore. You all need to agree to disagree....

just a reminder - no personal attacks- PLEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

ph4ever wrote:I never said you were a buffettbot I said I wasn't. I guess your standards is that it's okay to you for people to basically lie to you? Because that's what the youtube video is when he announced the shows - a lie.

Unanticipated scheduling conflicts are not a lie, rather an unfortunate set of circumstances. And a mistake to announce them before in stone.

ph4ever wrote:There are quite a number of people, yes even some that post here, that are of the opinion that the quality of merchandise - be it his performances, cds, books or other margaritaville paraphernalia has declined over the past several years while the cost of some items have skyrocketed. There are several of us that would rather spend our money on trop rock artists who actually appear to appreciate their fans. If you want to call us "disgruntled impossible to please loyal fans" go right ahead but you can rest assured that it will be a long long time before a lot of people spend another dime on the corporation as was mentioned earlier when discussing the possible potential for lackluster sales on west coast for the new cd. Just be careful and don't choke on that koolaid.

Of course there are... a lot of people feel he isn't what he used to be, and don't like his merchandising. But so what? We all have the choice not to spend our money on it. I do it every day. That's not the point.

I don't want him tarred and feathered for it. Do you want him dead? Do you want him to retire and go into hiding? Sorry, but that's just not going to happen, because there are enough people who still appreciate him, and are still willing to buy what he's selling. That's what I don't get. So what if he doesn't meet your standards any more... listen to the old stuff, and don't buy the new stuff. But why chastise him for it? What purpose will it ultimately serve?

sunseeker wrote:I just want to remind EVERYONE here that EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions on this subject and to me I really don't see the point in discussing ANY viewpoint anymore. You all need to agree to disagree....

just a reminder - no personal attacks- PLEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

I'm trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*hanging head in shame*

ph4ever wrote:Michelle you can continue to bait me all you want but it's not going to work. Bottom line it's not your place to either judge me or question why I post here.

Here - maybe this will work on someone else.

Carp and Catfish Bait Recipe
35 putrified nightcrawlers
1 lb. beef liver (liquify in blender)
1 pint sour cream
3 Tbsp. garlic powder
1 package of frozen bread dough (thawed)
2 lbsp. Flour
Large Ziplock Bags
Combine the nightcrawlers, beef liver, sour cream, garlic powder and bread dough. Kneed the dough as you would if you were making the most disgusting loaf of bread ever! Use the extra flour if the dough is too sticky to work with.
Place your stinky dough into a ziplock baggie, make sure that you squeeze all the air out, write on the bag do not open unless you want to PUKE and let ferment for 2 days. Unzip the baggie after the second day to let some of the fermented air out. When you are ready to go fishing...just stick a chunk of the dough onto the hook and reel in the fish!

I wasn't trying to "bait" you. I don't know what you are talking about... and I am not trying to insult you.

I was simply saying that I don't understand why people would continue to spend all day on a BuffettNews site when the only thing they do is complain about Buffett. It is like you are trying to start a fight with people. You have been given an explanation about the cancellations and yet you continue to try and get people all fired up about it. Is it some form of sick entertainment?

And for the record, the "Don't choke on that Kool-Aid" comment to JoAnn was completely unnecessary. How can you say that you are trying not to personally insult people with that comment?