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Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 5:49 pm
by piratenurse
Ok, I want to tag along to the VIP suite, too! All I can say after reading this thread is that it has been a long, cold winter and boy, does everybody really, really, really need a tailgate.
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Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 5:56 pm
by sailorkid94
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 6:16 pm
by ph4ever
piratenurse wrote:Ok, I want to tag along to the VIP suite, too! All I can say after reading this thread is that it has been a long, cold winter and boy, does everybody really, really, really need a tailgate.
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how many do I put you down for? When you get to the hellsuite the doorman will check your name and give you the password for the VIP section. Give Santa the password for entry to the VIP section.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 9:16 pm
by ragtopW
PHritz 01 wrote:ph4ever wrote:PHritz 01 wrote:To solve the problem on this thread I say everyone donate the cost of a dog coat to Santa and I and we will go purchase g-strings for deprived strippers. Sometime next month we will go to Treasure's and present the g-strings to the deprived strippers (with tips of course) and insure they fit properly for lap dances.
There should be some females go too - because it's so much damn fun to be a female at a strip club with a bunch of guys.
Sounds good to me. I say we agree to skip the hell thing for a while and just come back to Texas in May for the concert, it will feel like hell anyways, and hit up Hooter's and the strip clubs and it will be so damn hot we won't even remember coats for dogs

SAnta, PH, PHritz, Bits... at a strip club, what could go wrong?
SHUT THE HELL UP SANTA!!!! Bachelor parties do not count!
OH the Stories I could tell..
BTW.. IMHO... I wish Dallas had a Sam's Boat..
that place rocks..

Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 10:46 pm
by UAHparrothead
I realize that I am asking for trouble in posting this and I might get flamed quicker than the Olympic torch, but... The general consensus on this thread is it's your money spend it as you see fit. Ok, a few months ago there was a thread about Rick Warren asking for end of the year donations to his church. Some people stated in that thread that since Rick Warren has sold millions of books and is worth millions of dollars that his asking for donations was fishy at best. To me, this seems like a contradiction. How can we decry Rick Warren asking and his church members answering on the one hand and on the other say that this woman has every right to spend her money on her dog? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it does seem interesting.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:10 pm
by flipflopgirl
pair8head wrote:I wonder just how fast that asshat would have filed a lawsuit if the dog had bitten him/her.
I was thinking the same thing Don!!!

WTF is wrong with people stealing a coat off of a dog????????

Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:12 pm
by popcornjack
To discuss this purely objectively (or at least as objectively as any topic can be discussed) and to therefore remove the personalities of the players involved and how a person's opinion of who or what is being discussed can affect the discussion (I don't remember the Warren thread exactly, but it's my recollection that the dog has a lot more people from here pulling for it than Warren ever did) the difference that I see is in the asking.
The woman has the money; she can spend it however she wants. If she wants to spend it on her dog, that's her choice. Likewise, if she wants to donate it to a church, also her choice.
Rick Warren also has the money, but it isn't about how he is spending it, it is that he is asking other people to spend their money.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:19 pm
by ph4ever
UAHparrothead wrote:I realize that I am asking for trouble in posting this and I might get flamed quicker than the Olympic torch, but... The general consensus on this thread is it's your money spend it as you see fit. Ok, a few months ago there was a thread about Rick Warren asking for end of the year donations to his church. Some people stated in that thread that since Rick Warren has sold millions of books and is worth millions of dollars that his asking for donations was fishy at best. To me, this seems like a contradiction. How can we decry Rick Warren asking and his church members answering on the one hand and on the other say that this woman has every right to spend her money on her dog? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it does seem interesting.
You actually don't see the difference in someone asking for money vs someone spending their money as they see fit?
Nobody in the Rick Warren thread criticized those that actually gave the money unless the fact that someone hoped those that were generous to Pastor Rick also contributed to other charities is considered by you to be a criticism.
The criticism was the fact that someone worth 11 million would ask for a handout even if it is from his congregation. If you look at the growth of Saddleback in 2009 and then take in account the "urgent" need for funds then from a business standpoint it's quite possibly a case of growing too fast without sound financial planning or consideration. To say that one didn't discover the shortage until the week between Christmas and New Years is what was fishy.
The congregation has the right to contribute to him just as much as it was the woman's right to spend her money on her dog.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:23 pm
by UAHparrothead
popcornjack wrote:To discuss this purely objectively (or at least as objectively as any topic can be discussed) and to therefore remove the personalities of the players involved and how a person's opinion of who or what is being discussed can affect the discussion (I don't remember the Warren thread exactly, but it's my recollection that the dog has a lot more people from here pulling for it than Warren ever did) the difference that I see is in the asking.
The woman has the money; she can spend it however she wants. If she wants to spend it on her dog, that's her choice. Likewise, if she wants to donate it to a church, also her choice.
Rick Warren also has the money, but it isn't about how he is spending it, it is that he is asking other people to spend their money.
I see what you're saying, but there was also discussion about his money and how he spends it. And part of his and my job as a pastor is making sure that his church brings in enough money to support itself. I don't know, I just thought it was interesting.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:24 pm
by UAHparrothead
ph4ever wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:I realize that I am asking for trouble in posting this and I might get flamed quicker than the Olympic torch, but... The general consensus on this thread is it's your money spend it as you see fit. Ok, a few months ago there was a thread about Rick Warren asking for end of the year donations to his church. Some people stated in that thread that since Rick Warren has sold millions of books and is worth millions of dollars that his asking for donations was fishy at best. To me, this seems like a contradiction. How can we decry Rick Warren asking and his church members answering on the one hand and on the other say that this woman has every right to spend her money on her dog? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it does seem interesting.
You actually don't see the difference in someone asking for money vs someone spending their money as they see fit?
Guess I'm having a dumb week
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:30 pm
by ph4ever
UAHparrothead wrote:ph4ever wrote:UAHparrothead wrote:I realize that I am asking for trouble in posting this and I might get flamed quicker than the Olympic torch, but... The general consensus on this thread is it's your money spend it as you see fit. Ok, a few months ago there was a thread about Rick Warren asking for end of the year donations to his church. Some people stated in that thread that since Rick Warren has sold millions of books and is worth millions of dollars that his asking for donations was fishy at best. To me, this seems like a contradiction. How can we decry Rick Warren asking and his church members answering on the one hand and on the other say that this woman has every right to spend her money on her dog? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it does seem interesting.
You actually don't see the difference in someone asking for money vs someone spending their money as they see fit?
Guess I'm having a dumb week
happens to me all the time
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:33 pm
by UAHparrothead
But did you know that It is possible to lead a cow upstairs...but not downstairs.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 10, 2010 11:48 pm
by ph4ever
UAHparrothead wrote:But did you know that It is possible to lead a cow upstairs...but not downstairs.
No I didn't. I figured they could do either since they go up in a trailer and down out of one

Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 12:05 am
by pbans
My dog would have given him his coat....he hates it...runs and hides whenever I get it out....
Gee....guess that's why he has fur.....and I donated all my old coats to the Rescue Mission before I bought a dog coat.
He's just a skinny little minute, I thought he'd appreciate it......I was wrong.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 12:11 am
by rich_big
this is just so wrong.
too bad the dog didn't rip his fingers off....
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 12:18 am
by flipflopgirl
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 12:32 am
by springparrot
Boy, this thread went from 0 to 60 in no time flat

Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 1:45 am
by Karacal
nutmeg wrote:This lady is lucky that the dog wasn't stolen as well.
It will probably surprise no one that I believe that animals should be helped at the same time as people (not only after all human needs are satisfied). Most people have resources and options open to them...thousands of animals do not. I do a lot with charities for both people and animals, but the animals have a very special place in my heart, as do people who care enough to take care of the helpless victims of circumstance that many animals have become lately.
So SK94 you feel it would be better to go on a shopping spree for yourself than spoil a beloved pet or support a pet charity? You would hate to see the way my cats live

Right now two of them are sleeping in heated bed in the bay window with a floor to ceiling cat tree right next to them. My rescued stray Domino is asleep on a rug in a plastic dish pan because that is her favorite. I hand knit cat toys for them and I love them with all my heart. I hope some day you have the joy of loving a pet that much...the return on love often beats that of other humans.
Oh and Bill? Many terriers would take on any of those dogs you posted pictures of. I've never seen a dog with more courage and willingness to scrap than my friend's Yorkie. Most terriers know no fear.

Well said. My dogs are family to me. I can't imagine my life without them. If I want to spoil them, that is my choice. Yes, I do give to people charities too.

to the person that took the coat.
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 5:23 am
by aeroparrot
pair8head wrote:I wonder just how fast that asshat would have filed a lawsuit if the dog had bitten him/her.
The same day?
Re: Dog mugged in NYC
Posted: February 11, 2010 7:03 am
by PHritz 01
UAHparrothead wrote:I realize that I am asking for trouble in posting this and I might get flamed quicker than the Olympic torch, but... The general consensus on this thread is it's your money spend it as you see fit. Ok, a few months ago there was a thread about Rick Warren asking for end of the year donations to his church. Some people stated in that thread that since Rick Warren has sold millions of books and is worth millions of dollars that his asking for donations was fishy at best. To me, this seems like a contradiction. How can we decry Rick Warren asking and his church members answering on the one hand and on the other say that this woman has every right to spend her money on her dog? Maybe I'm missing something here, but it does seem interesting.
Since I never posted in that thread and there is no contradiction in my views or opinions, it has be consistent across the board. If you earn the money you have the right to spend it anyway you choose, even illegal matters since the money isn't unlawful even if the act is and that can/will be addressed in the legal system. Some or many may find the spender's choices silly, wasteful, immoral, or whatever but the bottom line it is no one's business how someone chooses to spend their money because I can guarantee you that there is someone right now offended on how each one of us lives, spends, talks, wears, travels... and no where were people told the had the right to walk around in life and not be offended, judging the morality of it is the same thing since it is the person passing judgment that is offended over another person's choice to pursue their version of Life, Liberty, and Happiness. Anything less is an assault on our Liberty and Freedom.