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This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:25 am
by oceanstate
Since I'm not a fan of Walmart, I jumped at the Margaritaville pre-sale of the Encores CD. List price was $14.98. Let's face it...only fans pre-order CDs. But I did.

Since it released today, I went over to check and see if the order shipped. Not really sure if the CD shipped, but I did notice that my credit card was charged $14.98 (confirmed with the card statement online).

Nice to see that today, the day of release, the CD is being sold for $12.00. Now, I realize that we're only talking about $3 here, which isn't going to shake the world, but this litany of things happening that say loud and clear "we only care about squeezing every dime we can out of you and really have no regard for the fan experience" is beginning to wear really, really thin.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:29 am
by C-Dawg
not a big fan of Wallyworld either....can count the times I've been there in past year on one hand and not use all my fingers.....BUT will be heading there after work today to pick up a copy. Thanks for the info, it'll save me a few bucks.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:33 am
by phjrsaunt
I understand. I had pretty much the same reaction. I saw "free shipping" on the Margartaville offer, and actually figured they were doing me a favor.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:46 am
by ScarletB
C-Dawg wrote:not a big fan of Wallyworld either....can count the times I've been there in past year on one hand and not use all my fingers.....BUT will be heading there after work today to pick up a copy. Thanks for the info, it'll save me a few bucks.
I never go there either but I have to go right by there on my way back from my eye surgeon checkup so I'll be stopping in!

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:51 am
by sunseeker
Here's my question - does an artist have control over what a retailer sells a product for once it's out of their hands? I don't know enough about wholesale/resell to say....

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 6:54 am
by spucketts
oceanstate wrote:Since I'm not a fan of Walmart, I jumped at the Margaritaville pre-sale of the Encores CD. List price was $14.98. Let's face it...only fans pre-order CDs. But I did.

Since it released today, I went over to check and see if the order shipped. Not really sure if the CD shipped, but I did notice that my credit card was charged $14.98 (confirmed with the card statement online).

Nice to see that today, the day of release, the CD is being sold for $12.00. Now, I realize that we're only talking about $3 here, which isn't going to shake the world, but this litany of things happening that say loud and clear "we only care about squeezing every dime we can out of you and really have no regard for the fan experience" is beginning to wear really, really thin.
Slightly related to your post: Here recently I've had a problem with online sales, specifically ebay, where I buy something and pay but then don't hear a word from the seller. No thank-you, or your order has shipped, or your order will ship in the next day, nothing to confirm the sale except that I can see my credit card has been charged. Maybe not a big deal but to me it is when were talking about a $500 camera body or a $100 motorcycle part, I'd like to know that I haven't been ripped off and I'd prefer not to wait 21 days waiting for something to show up that never will, should that be the case.

I'm surprised Margaritaville didn't have an automated message sent to you, seems most online retail businesses do.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 7:50 am
by looking4OPH
oceanstate wrote:Since I'm not a fan of Walmart, I jumped at the Margaritaville pre-sale of the Encores CD. List price was $14.98. Let's face it...only fans pre-order CDs. But I did.

Since it released today, I went over to check and see if the order shipped. Not really sure if the CD shipped, but I did notice that my credit card was charged $14.98 (confirmed with the card statement online).

Nice to see that today, the day of release, the CD is being sold for $12.00. Now, I realize that we're only talking about $3 here, which isn't going to shake the world, but this litany of things happening that say loud and clear "we only care about squeezing every dime we can out of you and really have no regard for the fan experience" is beginning to wear really, really thin.
Ahh, competition. It always pays to shop around, be that a storefront or online. When looking for savings (even $3), I always factor in tax and shipping for the total cost. I don't feel committed to any manufacturer/producer enough to pay prices inflated above what competition in the market provides at "their" storefront. Not anything new, just sayin.....

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 8:10 am
by oceanstate
It's not really even an issue of shopping around. It's about JB's outfit (Margaritaville) preselling the item for $14.98 to get folks to buy early, and then rewarding them by lowering the price through the same outlet (Margaritaville).

It's not about the $3. I can afford the $3. It's about whether or not you are going to show your fans respect. Lately it seems that there's always an angle that you have to be watching out for, and it's tiresome to constantly be reminded that I've viewed not as a valuable part of the fanbase (who has spent a god awful amount of cash), but as an ATM machine.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 9:05 am
by pema
i think that the bigger insult is that you still haven't gotten it yet. i've always thought that if you pre-order something directly from the source, you should get it BEFORE it makes it to store shelves. but i have learned that is usually not the case, and i don't pre-order (unless the item is likely to sell out) for that reason.

i don't think i would have expected a price break from m'ville, but i agree that you should have gotten some benefit from preordering...

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 9:34 am
by Staredge
Did you miss the fine print? It's a $3 charge for convenience & parking. :lol:

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 9:40 am
by oceanstate
Staredge wrote:Did you miss the fine print? It's a $3 charge for convenience & parking. :lol:
I don't care who you are...that was funny. Thanks.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:06 am
by sonofabeach
"Phony outrage" in general is getting old.
Walmart hatred is much to do about nothin' imo.
I'll have to hit Wally World later and pick it up.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:16 am
by oceanstate
sonofabeach wrote:"Phony outrage" in general is getting old.
Walmart hatred is much to do about nothin' imo.
I'll have to hit Wally World later and pick it up.
Excuse me?

I never used the word outrage. And I think to point blank call someone phony is a bit, well, rude.

I also never said I hate Walmart. I simply said I don't shop there. Never said why, and you didn't ask before you decided to be a dork about it.

Really, dude. Lay off the self-righteousness.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:17 am
by HD18JBGuy
sonofabeach wrote:"Phony outrage" in general is getting old.
Walmart hatred is much to do about nothin' imo.
I'll have to hit Wally World later and pick it up.
Gotta say, I tend to agree with you, but the guy does have a bit of a reason to be a little ticked off given that he doesn't have his CD and (if) the price dropped from the M'Ville website.

But all in all, I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:25 am
by Staredge
Actually, thinking deeper about it.....it's your fault, not Margaritaville's.

Don't hate me yet. You bought it from Margaritaville. Walmart is offering it cheaper. Margaritaville doesn't set the retail price, the store does. Walmart paid a wholesale price for it, and is free to charge whatever they wish for it. They chose to sell it for less than Margaritaville.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:29 am
by oceanstate
Staredge wrote:Actually, thinking deeper about it.....it's your fault, not Margaritaville's.

Don't hate me yet. You bought it from Margaritaville. Walmart is offering it cheaper. Margaritaville doesn't set the retail price, the store does. Walmart paid a wholesale price for it, and is free to charge whatever they wish for it. They chose to sell it for less than Margaritaville.
I'm not miffed about the difference in price. I'd gladly pay $14.98 rather than fighting the WM world for $12.00. I'm miffed because they sold it at pre-order for $14.98, and now have it (the day it released) on the M'ville website for $12.00. I just think that the right thing to do is sell it to the pre-order folks at the same price that you sell it on the release date. In short, you are penalized for pre-ordering, which is absurd. I've honestly never seen a retailer who doesn't do that.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:36 am
by JollyMon66
oceanstate wrote:
Staredge wrote:Actually, thinking deeper about it.....it's your fault, not Margaritaville's.

Don't hate me yet. You bought it from Margaritaville. Walmart is offering it cheaper. Margaritaville doesn't set the retail price, the store does. Walmart paid a wholesale price for it, and is free to charge whatever they wish for it. They chose to sell it for less than Margaritaville.
I'm not miffed about the difference in price. I'd gladly pay $14.98 rather than fighting the WM world for $12.00. I'm miffed because they sold it at pre-order for $14.98, and now have it (the day it released) on the M'ville website for $12.00. I just think that the right thing to do is sell it to the pre-order folks at the same price that you sell it on the release date. In short, you are penalized for pre-ordering, which is absurd. I've honestly never seen a retailer who doesn't do that.

I'd be annoyed at this too and feel your pain. Not that's its really relevant to your problem but my 17 yearold son will pre-order an Xbox game so he has it "incase they run out". I've never understood the whole pre-sale/pre-order for merchandise that will be restocked on the self by weeks end.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:37 am
by RinglingRingling
oceanstate wrote:
Staredge wrote:Actually, thinking deeper about it.....it's your fault, not Margaritaville's.

Don't hate me yet. You bought it from Margaritaville. Walmart is offering it cheaper. Margaritaville doesn't set the retail price, the store does. Walmart paid a wholesale price for it, and is free to charge whatever they wish for it. They chose to sell it for less than Margaritaville.
I'm not miffed about the difference in price. I'd gladly pay $14.98 rather than fighting the WM world for $12.00. I'm miffed because they sold it at pre-order for $14.98, and now have it (the day it released) on the M'ville website for $12.00. I just think that the right thing to do is sell it to the pre-order folks at the same price that you sell it on the release date. In short, you are penalized for pre-ordering, which is absurd. I've honestly never seen a retailer who doesn't do that.
Think of yourself as an "early-adopter"...

yeah. weak joke, but I also agree with you that the M'ville site shouldn't be hosing fans (because your average shopper isn't going directly to M'ville.com to buy the album, they'll go to Wal*mart and Bestbuy to get it) for giving them the benefit of good first-week sales figures. (I doubt they are going to report the sales next week or the week after)

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 10:48 am
by Staredge
My fault...I missed that part. In that case, I think I'd be cancelling my pre-order and re-ordering. I'd definitely call & raise hell. You have a right to be angry.

Re: This is getting a bit old

Posted: April 20, 2010 1:59 pm
by ph4ever
RinglingRingling wrote:
oceanstate wrote:
Staredge wrote:Actually, thinking deeper about it.....it's your fault, not Margaritaville's.

Don't hate me yet. You bought it from Margaritaville. Walmart is offering it cheaper. Margaritaville doesn't set the retail price, the store does. Walmart paid a wholesale price for it, and is free to charge whatever they wish for it. They chose to sell it for less than Margaritaville.
I'm not miffed about the difference in price. I'd gladly pay $14.98 rather than fighting the WM world for $12.00. I'm miffed because they sold it at pre-order for $14.98, and now have it (the day it released) on the M'ville website for $12.00. I just think that the right thing to do is sell it to the pre-order folks at the same price that you sell it on the release date. In short, you are penalized for pre-ordering, which is absurd. I've honestly never seen a retailer who doesn't do that.
Think of yourself as an "early-adopter"...

yeah. weak joke, but I also agree with you that the M'ville site shouldn't be hosing fans (because your average shopper isn't going directly to M'ville.com to buy the album, they'll go to Wal*mart and Bestbuy to get it) for giving them the benefit of good first-week sales figures. (I doubt they are going to report the sales next week or the week after)
The Buffett empire hosing people? OMG say it isn't so!!