sunseeker wrote:In my opinion skibo was only pointing out how absurd it was that in the USA someone was sent home from school for showing AMERICAN pride and wearing clothing depicting an AMERICAN flag. Would we have sent home someone for wearing clothing depicting and IRAQ flag? No....because that would have been discrimination as well as against someone's right as an American citizen.
Yes I am appalled. And yes perhaps it needs to be sensationalized for Americans to see that our rights are being stripped out from under us in the name of politcal correctness. My daddy was a good ole redneck boy and he would have sent me to school every day wearing something depicting the red white and blue if something like this had happened to me.
And quite frankly I'm shaking my head that others aren't as appalled as well.
Realize that I haven't seen the video. SharkOnLand pointed out that one kid was wearing swimtrunks and another a headband both in violation of the rules. My daddy was not only a good ol' redneck but he was also a WWII vet and he would have NEVER let me wear the flag even as a patch and if I had been sent home in violation of school rules wearing the flag I would have literally had my ass beat.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
I agree Connie - if the clothing was against school rules in some other form then YES - send them home. However, if they were sent home simply because it had an American flag on it that is different. I think we as coutry have cowered down to others and their "rights" so much that we are losing sight of who we are as a country. Dont get me wrong - if someone does something that physically causes harm to another then they should be reprimanded. However, I'm sick to death of all this PC crap.
Connie I don't think wearing the flag (unless I missed ) it was against school rules...only wearing it on cinco de mayo and it was offending Mexican students.
Connie- I understand your point on flag code. But most people (historians) as well will say that it can't be read as the letter of the law these days. MOST people see wearing clothing depicting the flag or USA or red white and blues as an act of patriotism and not as a degradation of the flag.
ph4ever wrote:
Realize that I haven't seen the video. SharkOnLand pointed out that one kid was wearing swimtrunks and another a headband both in violation of the rules. My daddy was not only a good ol' redneck but he was also a WWII vet and he would have NEVER let me wear the flag even as a patch and if I had been sent home in violation of school rules wearing the flag I would have literally had my ass beat.
Why does your father hate this country? There was no school policy against wearing clothing with flag images. This was a knee-jerk reaction by a principal pushing the political correctness bubble. The superintendent spoke and he stated that he did not support the action. The flag code also states:
Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
Oh wait, that's free speech.
Flag images are common on clothing, as are patches. We don't need tax increases, we just need to get the flag police out enforcing the flag code.
Skibo- I don't think Connie was saying her father hates this country and for you to infer that was uncalled for. Her father fought in a war for this country and deserves respect. Connie was only referencing my comment about my father.
However, I agree that it was a knee jerk reaction on the part of the principle. Perhaps, he should have found out exactly WHY the hispanic boys were offended and them educated them about the country they are currently living in.
It seems the students wore them to get a rise out of people. The one kid was wearing swimtrunks. Is there any reason to wear swimtrunks to school? One kid had a bandana on, which are against school rules. If it was their intent to provoke people, the school had every reason to send them home.
Also, the topic title is a little misleading. Nowhere in the video is it called an "image of hate". Do we really need to be that sensational?
That's two of five. What were the other three horrible children doing/wearing?
Looks like:
One kid with a red/white/blue bandana and a shirt with the Declaration of Indepedance.
One kid with an Old Navy American flag shirt and swim trunks
One kid with American Flag on his shirt
One kid with a black shirt and red, white and blue shoes
No idea about the 5th kid
1. Is it ok to wear the American flag printed on a piece of clothing/
But this discussion for me is about the freedom of expression and freedom to display pride for the country for these students. They were sent home because the flag offended (or in some case simply the colors red white and blue) some students. Was the right?
sunseeker wrote:Skibo- I don't think Connie was saying her father hates this country and for you to infer that was uncalled for.
I put the emoticon in. jeeeezzzzzze
yes but the laughing emoticon insiuates that you were laughing at her (and her father's opinion) and IMO disrepectful and not helping your argument one bit.
And as I stated in my above post - I believe that we have two discussions going on in one thread...
My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
At the same time if I wish to show my love for my country by wearing a piece of clothing that includes a
photo or a patch of the American Flag then I will do so and if it hurts your feelings, tough. Get over it.
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pair8head wrote:My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
Are you serious in that you don't get that these kids didn't buy an ACTUAL flag and wrap it around themselves? They were wearing t-shirts and such with images of the flag on it. Big difference.
pair8head wrote:My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
But Don - Do you really think if I wore a tshirt that had an image of the American flag that I would intentionally be wearing it to disrepect it? MOST people don't see it that way...They think they are showing patriotic pride... but this thread was not started to argue that point.
A kid was sent home for wearing the colors RED WHITE and BLUE.....how politically correct can we get?
pair8head wrote:My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
But Don - Do you really think if I wore a tshirt that had an image of the American flag that I would intentionally be wearing it to disrepect it? MOST people don't see it that way...They think they are showing patriotic pride... but this thread was not started to argue that point.
A kid was sent home for wearing the colors RED WHITE and BLUE.....how politically correct can we get?
I would support that kid to the hilt. Trust me on this one. I am of the firm belief that "Political Correct" people of this world have gone to far and therefor need to chill the F@#$ out.
SAVE THE EARTH
It's the only Planet that has chocolate.
pair8head wrote:My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
At the same time if I wish to show my love for my country by wearing a piece of clothing that includes a
photo or a patch of the American Flag then I will do so and if it hurts your feelings, tough. Get over it.
How can I not weigh in here? I am much more a "love it or leave it" person than not....that's just the type of house I was raised in. Don hit's on an issue that I think is central to this topic. If you want to allow the freedoms we have then those freedoms are bound to offend some...sometimes. It's a bit of a "chick-flick" but there is a great speach Michael Douglas makes at the end of The American President movie. The speach deals with being president but more importantly the freedoms that we all share. Yes...it's Hollywood but there is a lot of truth here.
pair8head wrote:My two cents: The American flag is a symbol of the United States of America.
It represents the freedoms that we enjoy today. These freedoms include your right to disrespect the
very flag that represents your freedoms. In my opinion if you want to spend your money on a flag and then
disrespect it by wearing it as a piece of clothing or even burning it then by all means go ahead.
However if you so much as think about disrespecting mine? I'm gonna be forced to kick your A$$
At the same time if I wish to show my love for my country by wearing a piece of clothing that includes a
photo or a patch of the American Flag then I will do so and if it hurts your feelings, tough. Get over it.
How can I not weigh in here? I am much more a "love it or leave it" person than not....that's just the type of house I was raised in. Don hit's on an issue that I think is central to this topic. If you want to allow the freedoms we have then those freedoms are bound to offend some...sometimes. It's a bit of a "chick-flick" but there is a great speach Michael Douglas makes at the end of The American President movie. The speach deals with being president but more importantly the freedoms that we all share. Yes...it's Hollywood but there is a lot of truth here.
Chick flick???? Not even. That's just a great movie.
yes I said that and I mean it.
SAVE THE EARTH
It's the only Planet that has chocolate.
There was no school policy against wearing clothing with flag images. This was a knee-jerk reaction by a principal pushing the political correctness bubble. The superintendent spoke and he stated that he did not support the action. The flag code also states:
