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Condom distribution policy starting in elementary school at Provincetown, Mass.

Sex education starts early, especially if you go to elementary school in Provincetown, Mass.

That’s because the school committee has unanimously adopted a condom distribution policy beginning as early as first grade.


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That is one of the most stupid decisions I have ever heard of from a school.

JollyMon66 wrote:

Must be a sailor, he's With The First MATE.

I blame the residents of that school district. They elected their school board. Either the majority of the voters supports distributing condoms to children, or the voters didn't waste the time to understand what type of administrators they were voting for. Being that this is in Mass, I'm assuming this is a democrat district so either is possible.

Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

bravedave wrote:
Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

just a word of advice: XL in Japan is not XL in the US...

RinglingRingling wrote:

bravedave wrote:
Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

just a word of advice: XL in Japan is not XL in the US...

And by what confluence of serendipity did you happen to stumble upon that bit of trivia?
[j/k]

bravedave wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

bravedave wrote:
Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

just a word of advice: XL in Japan is not XL in the US...

And by what confluence of serendipity did you happen to stumble upon that bit of trivia?
[j/k]

having spent time in Japan, and living here in the US... you learn things. Not just things like, "if the sushi is more 'aromatic' than usual, take a pass" or, "here you shower in the tub, there they shower, then get in the tub". Things.

RinglingRingling wrote:

bravedave wrote:
Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

just a word of advice: XL in Japan is not XL in the US...

Maybe this sizing difference is why my shirts fit tighter lately

JollyMon66 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

bravedave wrote:
Sure, they'll like the colorful assortment, but sizing can be a b****. ("Is there a dressing room where I can try this thing on?")

just a word of advice: XL in Japan is not XL in the US...

Maybe this sizing difference is why my shirts fit tighter lately

buying the leftover Hawaiian shirts from the last Nihon T&T-Johnsstown Division excusion, while good for quantity, might not have been good for quality...

We caught two 4th graders "playing nekkid doctor". Elementary age kids do know about things.

America has one of the highest, if not the highest teen pregnancy rates. Other countires who talk openly about birth control, etc have fewer kids getting pregnant. Why do we try to keep in the dark about protecting themselves?

The only way not to get preggo or a disease is not "do it". But if you are, this is what you need to do to protect yourself. Is that so wrong to teach our kids? (And yes - 1st grade is TOO young for that kind of talk).

Parents have basically turned over raising their kids to schools. Not only do teachers have to teach them content, they also have to teach them what is right and wrong, values, etc. If the majority of parents would get off their butts and parent their kids, districts wouldn't have to go this far.

School was sure different back in "the old days"

3 Kitsap teens suspended over oral sex on school bus
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ids08.html

SeattleParrotHead wrote:School was sure different back in "the old days"

3 Kitsap teens suspended over oral sex on school bus
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ids08.html

I saw that and my first reaction was. Damn why didn't I ride the buss when I was in Junior High?
and then I remembered, Oh yeah because I lived across the street from the school.

pair8head wrote:

SeattleParrotHead wrote:School was sure different back in "the old days"

3 Kitsap teens suspended over oral sex on school bus
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ids08.html

I saw that and my first reaction was. Damn why didn't I ride the buss when I was in Junior High?
and then I remembered, Oh yeah because I lived across the street from the school.

for what it's worth, this happened during a "field trip"

RinglingRingling wrote:

pair8head wrote:

SeattleParrotHead wrote:School was sure different back in "the old days"

3 Kitsap teens suspended over oral sex on school bus
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ids08.html

I saw that and my first reaction was. Damn why didn't I ride the buss when I was in Junior High?
and then I remembered, Oh yeah because I lived across the street from the school.

for what it's worth, this happened during a "field trip"

I hadn't actually read that part before the dark thought crept into my head. (no pun intended)

txaggirl91 wrote:We caught two 4th graders "playing nekkid doctor". Elementary age kids do know about things.

America has one of the highest, if not the highest teen pregnancy rates. Other countires who talk openly about birth control, etc have fewer kids getting pregnant. Why do we try to keep in the dark about protecting themselves?

The only way not to get preggo or a disease is not "do it". But if you are, this is what you need to do to protect yourself. Is that so wrong to teach our kids? (And yes - 1st grade is TOO young for that kind of talk).

Parents have basically turned over raising their kids to schools. Not only do teachers have to teach them content, they also have to teach them what is right and wrong, values, etc. If the majority of parents would get off their butts and parent their kids, districts wouldn't have to go this far.

I agree completely. School systems don't teach kids to become sexually active. Television and movies and advertising are the culprits here. If parents are worried about lost childhood innocence, maybe they should have a look at the stuff being marketed to their elementary school aged children by the entertainment industry.

Basically, if you haven't talked to your child about sex in some detail before they leave elementary school, you've left it too late.

flyboy55 wrote:

txaggirl91 wrote:We caught two 4th graders "playing nekkid doctor". Elementary age kids do know about things.

America has one of the highest, if not the highest teen pregnancy rates. Other countires who talk openly about birth control, etc have fewer kids getting pregnant. Why do we try to keep in the dark about protecting themselves?

The only way not to get preggo or a disease is not "do it". But if you are, this is what you need to do to protect yourself. Is that so wrong to teach our kids? (And yes - 1st grade is TOO young for that kind of talk).

Parents have basically turned over raising their kids to schools. Not only do teachers have to teach them content, they also have to teach them what is right and wrong, values, etc. If the majority of parents would get off their butts and parent their kids, districts wouldn't have to go this far.

I agree completely. School systems don't teach kids to become sexually active. Television and movies and advertising are the culprits here. If parents are worried about lost childhood innocence, maybe they should have a look at the stuff being marketed to their elementary school aged children by the entertainment industry.

Basically, if you haven't talked to your child about sex in some detail before they leave elementary school, you've left it too late.

But.. But... according to some folks (who make monster-stupid money baiting racists and neocons while wearing fmps.., who's kids go on to have kids out of wedlock), teaching abstinence (don't touch girls/boys until you are 45 or you'll go blind) is the only thing necessary....

The Governor and the Education Secretary for the Commonwealth has asked the Mayor to have the school committee to reconsider. The Mayor has called a meeting of the school committee to do just that. Not sure when the meeting is.

Here's the part that bothers me the most:

The committee also directed school leaders not to honor demands from parents who object to their kids receiving protection.

In high school, even junior high, maybe. In elementary school, if a school gives my kids condoms over my objections there's going to be a big problem...

The parents who ARE actively parenting are being shut out of the interaction between the school and their kids. Wrong, wrong, wrong...