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Our KC Chiefs start 3-0, WOW. Now we get a wake up call in 2 weeks we go to INDY.. Hopefully we can keep it close.

Joetown Parrothead wrote:Our KC Chiefs start 3-0, WOW. Now we get a wake up call in 2 weeks we go to INDY.. Hopefully we can keep it close.

We tried that today.. offense just couldn't punch it in, despite 450+ passing yards from Orton.

Vikings finally get it together on offense and win one. Peterson had 160 yards rushing. Combined
with his 145 last week and 85 opening game I think he might be leading the league.

Friggin' Giants.

The Giants beat themselves - 5 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, a personal foul in the end zone that gave the Titans a safety, an interception in the end zone when Manning threw the ball lefthanded and a fumble on the 6 yard line. Pathetic. If you look at the statistics of that game you'd think they blew the Titans off the field. Chris Johnson's 125 yards were deceiving, he only had 61 yards through the 3rd quarter when the Giants were still in it. He had a 42 yard run in garbage near at the end of the game, without that he averaged less than 3 yards/carry.

LIPH wrote:The Giants beat themselves - 5 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, a personal foul in the end zone that gave the Titans a safety, an interception in the end zone when Manning threw the ball lefthanded and a fumble on the 6 yard line. Pathetic. If you look at the statistics of that game you'd think they blew the Titans off the field. Chris Johnson's 125 yards were deceiving, he only had 61 yards through the 3rd quarter when the Giants were still in it. He had a 42 yard run in garbage near at the end of the game, without that he averaged less than 3 yards/carry.

No wonder there was a mix of smells. Both the smell of the Redskins defense and the Giants. Almost knocked me out.

No TV so I didn't see the game but from what I read in the paper the Giants offense was pitiful last night. Lucky for them, the Bears offense was even worse.

LIPH wrote:No TV so I didn't see the game but from what I read in the paper the Giants offense was pitiful last night. Lucky for them, the Bears offense was even worse.

Thank god for the defense...the offense was...offensive...P.U.

Reports are coming out that the Patriots are trading Randy Moss to the Vikings for a third round pick. Not sure of which year though, if true.

Holy crap!!! The Redskins beat the Packers.

More importantly, it puts the Redskins at 3-1 in the Conference.

aeroparrot wrote:Holy crap!!! The Redskins beat the Packers.

More importantly, it puts the Redskins at 3-1 in the Conference.

No, the Packers gave it away. This makes three times already when they could have (and should have) put the game away by the start of the 4th quarter, and this time it came back and bit 'em on the butt.

Green Bay needs to start taking these games a little more seriously. If they don't, I'm afraid it's going to be a lo-o-o-ng season for us up here in the Land of the Frozen Tundra.

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Bicycle Bill wrote:

aeroparrot wrote:Holy crap!!! The Redskins beat the Packers.

More importantly, it puts the Redskins at 3-1 in the Conference.

No, the Packers gave it away. This makes three times already when they could have (and should have) put the game away by the start of the 4th quarter, and this time it came back and bit 'em on the butt.

Green Bay needs to start taking these games a little more seriously. If they don't, I'm afraid it's going to be a lo-o-o-ng season for us up here in the Land of the Frozen Tundra.

-"BB"-

4th quarter? I say they should have done that in the first quarter. The game changer was when Clay Matthews, Jr. left the game. Prior to that McNabb was getting slammed around.

aeroparrot wrote:The game changer was when Clay Matthews, Jr. left the game. Prior to that McNabb was getting slammed around.

Right you are; the injuries — not just in this game, but the entire season so far — don't help. According to the Milwaukee papers, Rodgers suffered a concussion yesterday during OT and they've confirmed Matthews had a hamstring injury. Their writer feels that while they will both suit up against Miami next week (it's a home game, after all), neither of these guys are going to start.

Add to that the guys that are currently listed as either out for the season or currently among the 'walking wounded' — TEs Jermichael Finley and Donald Lee, RB Ryan Grant, LB Nick Barnett, CB Al Harris, and S Atari Bigby — and you can see the Packers are already a couple players deep in the depth charts.

Ah well. A few years back I busted an arm at the shoulder joint so badly it required surgery, a plate, and screws to put it all back together; and I was back on my bike in about a month, back to work within eight weeks (granted, it didn't involve close-quarter physical combat!), and pretty much close to normal after roughly four months....and I was on the far side of 50 at the time. A young guy like Matthews, with the trainers, the equipment, and the recuperative regimen they've got, might surprise us all and be ready to give close to 100% again by Wednesday, and be out there and looking for blood next Sunday.

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surfpirate wrote:A little credit for the Redskins' defense please.
There was a reason Packers were dropping and their offense couldn't *put the game away*.

There's another perspective ... the Packers didn't so much give the game away,
as the Redskins defense stiffened when it needed to and shut them down and took it away.
That allowed the Redskins offense just enough room to get those final 13 points of the game to win.

OK, I'll give them credit — but dambed little, and grudgingly at that. They held them in it, sure, but as aeroparrot noted, GB still had McNabb dancing for his life throughout the first three-plus quarters, sacking him a total of 8 times. Once Matthews sat down you could tell just by looking that the pressure on McNabb was seriously reduced; he had time to find his receivers and get the ball to them.

When you consider too that a team with the best QB they've had since Bart Starr (compare QB rating numbers; Rodger's numbers last year were higher than Favre ever had at Green Bay) still couldn't put the game out of reach; did the same thing last week and dambed near lost to the Lions; and the week before they handed a win to the Bears courtesy of the most penalty-ridden game in Green Bay history you've gotta admit that the victory was not entirely due to the sparkling Redskins defense.

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Bicycle Bill wrote:

surfpirate wrote:A little credit for the Redskins' defense please.
There was a reason Packers were dropping and their offense couldn't *put the game away*.

There's another perspective ... the Packers didn't so much give the game away,
as the Redskins defense stiffened when it needed to and shut them down and took it away.
That allowed the Redskins offense just enough room to get those final 13 points of the game to win.

OK, I'll give them credit — but dambed little, and grudgingly at that. They held them in it, sure, but as aeroparrot noted, GB still had McNabb dancing for his life throughout the first three-plus quarters, sacking him a total of 8 times. Once Matthews sat down you could tell just by looking that the pressure on McNabb was seriously reduced; he had time to find his receivers and get the ball to them.

When you consider too that a team with the best QB they've had since Bart Starr (compare QB rating numbers; Rodger's numbers last year were higher than Favre ever had at Green Bay) still couldn't put the game out of reach; did the same thing last week and dambed near lost to the Lions; and the week before they handed a win to the Bears courtesy of the most penalty-ridden game in Green Bay history you've gotta admit that the victory was not entirely due to the sparkling Redskins defense.

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I'll admit nothing! Statistically, the defense isn't great but they came up with the stops they needed when they needed to.

I feel the Redskins record is a bit fradulent and I'm waiting for the wheels to fall off the bus. Then again, maybe things will be different this year.

surfpirate wrote:8 sacks? I think you are embellishing.

Game stat sheet in my morning paper shows.

McNabb sacked 5 times (35 yards)
Rodgers sacked 4 times (23 yards)

McNabb 26/49 357 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
Rodgers 27/46 293 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT

McNabb, hobbled but with game victory.
Rodgers, concussion and game loss.

McNabb and the Redskins defense had the better game.
Not saying it was pretty ... but 4 quarters of play plus overtime ... the team that should have won yesterday .....

... did win.

My bad. I was looking at a box score and accidentally skipped down a line and read the number for punts, not sacks. McNabb got sacked five times and the 'Skins had 8 punts; Rodgers went down four times and the Packers had a total of six punts.
And I never said the 'Skins shouldn't have won. I was saying that the Packers don't appear to be playing up to their full capabilities and that's why the game ended up the way it did. Make out of it what you will.

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surfpirate wrote:A little credit for the Redskins' defense please.
There was a reason Packers were dropping and their offense couldn't *put the game away*.

There's another perspective ... the Packers didn't so much give the game away,
as the Redskins defense stiffened when it needed to and shut them down and took it away.
That allowed the Redskins offense just enough room to get those final 13 points of the game to win.

They do deserve a lot of credit, especially at the 4th and goal stop. I think when Armstong (is that his name???) got that touchdown, that gave the defense a second wind.