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I loathe my daughter's HS math program. We're looking at switching her to an online/home school program.

Anyone done this?

Any programs to suggest?

Just for math or have her home schooled for everything?

If it's everything I can say just from watching my son blossom from a kid to a young man in high school that I think pulling any kid out of school in high school to home school is a mistake. The change my son went through during those 4 years was nothing but amazing and I wouldn't trade them for all the money in the world. Yeah he did have some problems, and yeah there were times he wanted to quit stuff (like band one year) but he stuck them all out and I think he was the better person for it.

Besides, if you are pulling her out because you loathe the program what are you ultimately teaching her? Seems to me it would be that if you don't like something dump it, which isn't necessarily something you can do in the real world.

What math program do they use Mal?

Can you get her in dual credit math classes? She earns college credit and high school credit at the same time.

Just be careful, some online groups are worse than what you have at the school.

I applaud you for thinking outside the geometrical shape! I do believe we need to be much much more involved in selecting our kids' educational programs.

With that being said, I am not a math person so I cannot be of much (if any) help! My son and my hubby are both math people so the math/science issues were left to him!

Good luck in your decision!

Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

Not pulling her from school altogether--just for math.

txaggirl91 wrote:What math program do they use Mal?

Can you get her in dual credit math classes? She earns college credit and high school credit at the same time.

Just be careful, some online groups are worse than what you have at the school.

IMP They had CMP in middle school. It's basically math for those who have no hope in succeeding in life. Not to mention the new "writing across the curriculum" thing the district is implementing, where, instead of working more math problems, she has to write about (and get graded on her writing quality) how she solved problems.

According to the last standardized test, she writes better than most college grads.

Dual enrollment may work. There's many online programs available, but only 1-2 seem worth it.

I had a major "moment" when my second grader and high schooler basically came home with the same math worksheet.

MammaBear wrote:I applaud you for thinking outside the geometrical shape! I do believe we need to be much much more involved in selecting our kids' educational programs.

The principal actually knows the math program sucks, but it is mucho expensive to replace an entire math program, and the dollars just aren't there. The expense of a new program (and the selection process) and re-training the teachers is just not something the school can absorb right now.

I'm just evaluating whether we are disciplined enough as a family to support a school at school schedule and a math program at home. It may not make sense...I was just SO furious yesterday when I saw her math worksheet.

I'm confused here.
This is High School right?
Do they not have more advanced math classes?
Algebra? Geometry? Trigonometry?

pair8head wrote:I'm confused here.
This is High School right?
Do they not have more advanced math classes?
Algebra? Geometry? Trigonometry?

Haha. Oh no. Not that simple. IMP is "integrated math." It's not presented as Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II/Trig. It is a rotating series of IMP1, 2, 3 that incorporates all of the content (in theory) of all those three classes...but not necessarily in that order.

She doesn't need advanced math--she's not a math genius--she needs straightforward math.

consider enrolling her in a community college class. They have traditional classes, online classes and hybrids.

ejr wrote:Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

She'll have to take AP French online because they don't offer it at her school.

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

She'll have to take AP French online because they don't offer it at her school.

how the hell do you take french online?

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

She'll have to take AP French online because they don't offer it at her school.

how the hell do you take french online?

I don't know, but they've never had anyone score less than a 3 on the AP French exam, so I'm going to trust the process on this one.

buffettbride wrote:

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

She'll have to take AP French online because they don't offer it at her school.

how the hell do you take french online?

I don't know, but they've never had anyone score less than a 3 on the AP French exam, so I'm going to trust the process on this one.

having taken AP french, i can pretty much guarantee you get a 3 on the exam just for showing up......

i'd look for a business math class at a community college

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:Several of our students who either can't get a particular class worked into their schedule, or who want to take something we don't offer take courses through BYU's online high school program. We have been very satisfied with that. There are other online high school programs available through some other universities too, but we have has the most experience with BYU.

She'll have to take AP French online because they don't offer it at her school.

how the hell do you take french online?

I don't know, but they've never had anyone score less than a 3 on the AP French exam, so I'm going to trust the process on this one.

having taken AP french, i can pretty much guarantee you get a 3 on the exam just for showing up......

i'd look for a business math class at a community college

It's worth my $200 that I have to pay for the textbook and AP exam for her to get at least a 3 on the AP test because the equivalent class at a university is $600+.

She doesn't need business math. She needs algebra.

I'm not a fan of home schooling...with a large Mennonite population around here there are many families who home school so their kids are not exposed to the "sin" at school. This for us is ridiculous. Our kids learned many life lessons...good and bad...by needing to leave home and be exposed to many others. I was shocked last year when I learned that my son's school district needed to spent $500,000 per year for 50 online students...this impacted many budgets that benefited hundreds of students. Sorry for the soap box but we see no benefit teaching them outside a school based classroom. If the student has special learning needs seek some additional help. Just my opinion.

JollyMon66 wrote:I'm not a fan of home schooling...with a large Mennonite population around here there are many families who home school so their kids are not exposed to the "sin" at school. This for us is ridiculous. Our kids learned many life lessons...good and bad...by needing to leave home and be exposed to many others. I was shocked last year when I learned that my son's school district needed to spent $500,000 per year for 50 online students...this impacted many budgets that benefited hundreds of students. Sorry for the soap box but we see no benefit teaching them outside a school based classroom. If the student has special learning needs seek some additional help. Just my opinion.

I'm not talking home school to keep her away from sin. Just so she learns math the "real" way and can get a solid SAT score when the time comes, without digging up tons of cash for a private tutor (at $90 an hour, once per week, that's just not in the cards for us).

Her school is a *very* liberal arts school. One of her BFFs regularly comes to school in drag. Keep her away from sin. Haaa haaaa haaa haaa.

I guess what is intrinsically frustrating is that the district language arts program is not great. Most of the teachers have taken it upon themselves to enhance the curriculum. I guess I wish the math teachers would do the same, but the answer there is always "it's the district math programs so deal with it" and that just doesn't rub me the right way.

I have always s*cked at math - always. A's and B's all through school until I hit Geometry and it was all downhill from there math grade wise. Almost a perfect English SAT, math not so much.

Guess what? For the last 25 years I've made a great living being a loan officer at a bank. I add, subtract, multiply and divide - and I have an HP calculator. Being lousy at HS math has made no difference in my life. Though I applaud you for wanting her to have the best grasp on it that she can.

Good luck!

Sorry...posting from my phone which made it hard to read the all the detail in the thread. Didn't think you had a problem with "sin" My revised suggestion is to push your school HARD for a solution. If this is really a liberal arts minded school you would think they are familiar with finding educational solutions for students rather than using a cookie cutter approach. Good luck