I wish Jimmy would stay out of the political arena....

[bonefish]

If you're living a lifestyle that finds truth in his music, your political viewpoint is pretty aligned with his. He's done a great job of capitalizing on his success in business but at the heart of it, I still see a counter-culture songwriter who loves to mess with the elite. If he started voting for that elite, I'd question his songwriting.

Come on now....at the heart of it, JB is a major, major capitalist and definitely in the class of 'elite'. Just because he sings about smoking weed and being a hippy doesn't mean he doesn't live a king's life style in West Palm, LA and the Hamptons.

JB is the 1% (more like .001%)

[surfpirate]

If you're living a lifestyle that finds truth in his music, your political viewpoint is pretty aligned with his. He's done a great job of capitalizing on his success in business but at the heart of it, I still see a counter-culture songwriter who loves to mess with the elite. If he started voting for that elite, I'd question his songwriting.

Come on now....at the heart of it, JB is a major, major capitalist and definitely in the class of 'elite'. Just because he sings about smoking weed and being a hippy doesn't mean he doesn't live a king's life style in West Palm, LA and the Hamptons.

JB is the 1% (more like .001%)

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.

[lime rickie]

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.

[zippy]

I think it's great he supports candidates - other famous celebs do it and he is pretty friggin famous afterall!

[Wildh2oskier]

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.[/b]

We need more people like those two Buffetts.

[Tiki Torches]

Recently posted by Patterson Hood of the Drive-By Truckers on Facebook:

Some can argue that I should shut up and sing. That musicians don't have any business having a voice in politics. I say BULLSH*T!

I think every American has a right to an opinion and a voice. With that comes the responsibility to be informed and I take that very seriously. I travel across America, back and forth all the time, meeting people from all walks of life. I am a tax paying citizen with a family to support. I run a successful small business. My wife has a pre-existing condition that makes the insurance issues our country face especially important to us. I care very much about the country my children are growing up in and what values we extoll. I draw my conclusions based on a very informed place and can back up my arguments with more than bullsh*t platitudes.

To read the entirety of Patterson's message visit the Drive-By Truckers or Patterson Hood pages on FB.

[parrothead216]

If you're living a lifestyle that finds truth in his music, your political viewpoint is pretty aligned with his. He's done a great job of capitalizing on his success in business but at the heart of it, I still see a counter-culture songwriter who loves to mess with the elite. If he started voting for that elite, I'd question his songwriting.

Come on now....at the heart of it, JB is a major, major capitalist and definitely in the class of 'elite'. Just because he sings about smoking weed and being a hippy doesn't mean he doesn't live a king's life style in West Palm, LA and the Hamptons.

JB is the 1% (more like .001%)

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.

[drunkpirate66]

If you're living a lifestyle that finds truth in his music, your political viewpoint is pretty aligned with his. He's done a great job of capitalizing on his success in business but at the heart of it, I still see a counter-culture songwriter who loves to mess with the elite. If he started voting for that elite, I'd question his songwriting.

Come on now....at the heart of it, JB is a major, major capitalist and definitely in the class of 'elite'. Just because he sings about smoking weed and being a hippy doesn't mean he doesn't live a king's life style in West Palm, LA and the Hamptons.

JB is the 1% (more like .001%)

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.

Politics aside for just a moment (and my love for Jimmy Buffett's music and professionalism) I just cannot accept that Jimmy Buffett cares about the environment in terms of his own practical application. I know he says that he cares. I know he gives money to support certain environmental causes which is all well and good. But then he takes well documented trips where he and his son are in one plane and his wife and daughter are another as they travel to the same location (A Pirate Looks at Forty, for instance, has a lengthy passage about such activity in Jimmy's own supposed prose). He annually breaks Massachusetts Maritime Law when he docks his gigantic yacht off the coast of Madaket on Nantucket (he just pays the fine) as he has two planes at the airport so he and Jane can travel where ever and whenever he wants as he has four cars (or more) on island at their rented 3 mansion compound down at Never's Head. I know this because I used to live on Nantucket and working as a consultant for safety regulation for the USCG and I know the guys who work the ports and the airport crews. He uses more oil in a week then most would in a year or more for pleasure, non business related, travel and comfort. I don't care. All that is his personal business but please don't state that someone who would participate in and endorse this type of behavior cares about the environment. No way. The only bigger hypocrites out there who are famous in regards to what they say versus how they live in terms of "caring for the environment" are Al Gore and Bono.

And I don't believe for a second Jimmy would've ever done a Gulf Shores concert for the oil spill if he didn't just drop millions into a new hotel that needed business but that is just my opinion. The above are all facts. Environmentalism is not Jimmy's strength.

[msu#1]

If you're living a lifestyle that finds truth in his music, your political viewpoint is pretty aligned with his. He's done a great job of capitalizing on his success in business but at the heart of it, I still see a counter-culture songwriter who loves to mess with the elite. If he started voting for that elite, I'd question his songwriting.

Come on now....at the heart of it, JB is a major, major capitalist and definitely in the class of 'elite'. Just because he sings about smoking weed and being a hippy doesn't mean he doesn't live a king's life style in West Palm, LA and the Hamptons.

JB is the 1% (more like .001%)

From my observations,
both Buffetts .... James and Warren,
seem to have their wealthy heads and hearts
in the right place
and genuinely care
about the environment and issues that
are important to the lower 99% of us.

Politics aside for just a moment (and my love for Jimmy Buffett's music and professionalism) I just cannot accept that Jimmy Buffett cares about the environment in terms of his own practical application. I know he says that he cares. I know he gives money to support certain environmental causes which is all well and good. But then he takes well documented trips where he and his son are in one plane and his wife and daughter are another as they travel to the same location (A Pirate Looks at Forty, for instance, has a lengthy passage about such activity in Jimmy's own supposed prose). He annually breaks Massachusetts Maritime Law when he docks his gigantic yacht off the coast of Madaket on Nantucket (he just pays the fine) as he has two planes at the airport so he and Jane can travel where ever and whenever he wants as he has four cars (or more) on island at their rented 3 mansion compound down at Never's Head. I know this because I used to live on Nantucket and working as a consultant for safety regulation for the USCG and I know the guys who work the ports and the airport crews. He uses more oil in a week then most would in a year or more for pleasure, non business related, travel and comfort. I don't care. All that is his personal business but please don't state that someone who would participate in and endorse this type of behavior cares about the environment. No way. The only bigger hypocrites out there who are famous in regards to what they say versus how they live in terms of "caring for the environment" are Al Gore and Bono.

And I don't believe for a second Jimmy would've ever done a Gulf Shores concert for the oil spill if he didn't just drop millions into a new hotel that needed business but that is just my opinion. The above are all facts. Environmentalism is not Jimmy's strength.

tell that to the Surfers and Manatees. Some people

[Wildh2oskier]

And I don't believe for a second Jimmy would've ever done a Gulf Shores concert for the oil spill if he didn't just drop millions into a new hotel that needed business but that is just my opinion. The above are all facts. Environmentalism is not Jimmy's strength.

Why didn't he do it in Pensacola then? His hotel in P'cola was one of the few places that was getting bookings despite the oil spill.
I'm a waterskier. My boat takes gasoline, burns it, mixes the burnt gasses with the coolant water drawn in from the lake then it is dumped into the lake via the exhaust. I could enjoy a canoe instead but sometimes inorder to get the results you want (not need) you can't take the most ecological route possible. But I try to make the environment better in other ways that help to make the world better and help me to mentally feel better about the things I do that are not environmentally pristine. Its just the human in me.
I think Jimmy is just human too.

[surfpirate]

Politics aside for just a moment (and my love for Jimmy Buffett's music and professionalism) I just cannot accept that Jimmy Buffett cares about the environment in terms of his own practical application. I know he says that he cares. I know he gives money to support certain environmental causes which is all well and good. But then he takes well documented trips where he and his son are in one plane and his wife and daughter are another as they travel to the same location (A Pirate Looks at Forty, for instance, has a lengthy passage about such activity in Jimmy's own supposed prose). He annually breaks Massachusetts Maritime Law when he docks his gigantic yacht off the coast of Madaket on Nantucket (he just pays the fine) as he has two planes at the airport so he and Jane can travel where ever and whenever he wants as he has four cars (or more) on island at their rented 3 mansion compound down at Never's Head. I know this because I used to live on Nantucket and working as a consultant for safety regulation for the USCG and I know the guys who work the ports and the airport crews. He uses more oil in a week then most would in a year or more for pleasure, non business related, travel and comfort. I don't care. All that is his personal business but please don't state that someone who would participate in and endorse this type of behavior cares about the environment. No way. The only bigger hypocrites out there who are famous in regards to what they say versus how they live in terms of "caring for the environment" are Al Gore and Bono.

And I don't believe for a second Jimmy would've ever done a Gulf Shores concert for the oil spill if he didn't just drop millions into a new hotel that needed business but that is just my opinion. The above are all facts. Environmentalism is not Jimmy's strength.

I'm going to do some research on your facts from paragraph one and seriously consider what you have said before I respond.

As for paragraph two, my initial response is that the Gulf Coast residents
should be (they are) extremely grateful
that one of their own
is a successful businessman who opened that hotel ....
grateful for the jobs;
grateful for the boost to the local economy;
grateful for for the tourism ....
and
in the aftermath of an environmental disaster
grateful that they had a businessman with an investment to protect
that spurred him to the actions he took
to help himself ...

... with the *hypocritical side benefit* of helping
the local economy and the local environment.

[drunkpirate66]

Politics aside for just a moment (and my love for Jimmy Buffett's music and professionalism) I just cannot accept that Jimmy Buffett cares about the environment in terms of his own practical application. I know he says that he cares. I know he gives money to support certain environmental causes which is all well and good. But then he takes well documented trips where he and his son are in one plane and his wife and daughter are another as they travel to the same location (A Pirate Looks at Forty, for instance, has a lengthy passage about such activity in Jimmy's own supposed prose). He annually breaks Massachusetts Maritime Law when he docks his gigantic yacht off the coast of Madaket on Nantucket (he just pays the fine) as he has two planes at the airport so he and Jane can travel where ever and whenever he wants as he has four cars (or more) on island at their rented 3 mansion compound down at Never's Head. I know this because I used to live on Nantucket and working as a consultant for safety regulation for the USCG and I know the guys who work the ports and the airport crews. He uses more oil in a week then most would in a year or more for pleasure, non business related, travel and comfort. I don't care. All that is his personal business but please don't state that someone who would participate in and endorse this type of behavior cares about the environment. No way. The only bigger hypocrites out there who are famous in regards to what they say versus how they live in terms of "caring for the environment" are Al Gore and Bono.

And I don't believe for a second Jimmy would've ever done a Gulf Shores concert for the oil spill if he didn't just drop millions into a new hotel that needed business but that is just my opinion. The above are all facts. Environmentalism is not Jimmy's strength.

I'm going to do some research on your facts from paragraph one and seriously consider what you have said before I respond.

As for paragraph two, my initial response is that the Gulf Coast residents
should be (they are) extremely grateful
that one of their own
is a successful businessman who opened that hotel ....
grateful for the jobs;
grateful for the boost to the local economy;
grateful for for the tourism ....
and
in the aftermath of an environmental disaster
grateful that they had a businessman with an investment to protect
that spurred him to the actions he took
to help himself ...

... with the *hypocritical side benefit* of helping
the local economy and the local environment.

Getting off subject. They all should be grateful for all those things. I agree. But anyone who uses two planes to transport his immediate family from location to the next because boys like louder planes and girls like quieter ones (again, A Pirate Looks at Fifty) and keeps more than one plane, a humungous yacht, and numerous cars (one year it was 3 cars, a limo, and a jeep according to the ferry log****) on Nantucket while owning one of the largest private fleets of aircraft in the world (it was a Grumman Widgeon Seaplane***** he crashed off Nantucket - by the way) and who travels at will for pleasure using more oil then most small towns would in a year, while owning houses in Florida, pent houses in Manhattan, California, St. Barths, France, and probably other places - not to mention all the massive trucking and cargo ship usage for his numerous products and restaurants that support his empire cannot be considered someone who cares, in his own practical application, for the environment. He has every right to do whatever he wants with his wealth and I don't judge him for anything. But I do feel the need to comment when people state that someone like Jimmy Buffett who encompasses a myriad of horribly negative environmental practices for his own pleasure and to pad his own wealth. There is no way he actually cares. None. He flies planes that were manufactured in the 1960's and before (well documented from interviews). These aircraft wouldn't pass any current environmental emissions standard if made today and I bet Jimmy knows that. I could go on. But I won't. (but really - how much oil goes into making the plastic alone for all the little Margaritaville products alone? Mind boggling).

**** Yes, I saw it with my own eyes.

***** Them f*ckers take a ton of oil. No need to research that. They got a 900 mile range. Not running on wind or solar.

[surfpirate]

.....I don't judge him for anything.

I beg to differ. Your entire posts, while not without some merit,
are scathingly judgemental.

[drunkpirate66]

.....I don't judge him for anything.

I beg to differ. Your entire posts, while not without some merit,
are scathingly judgemental.

I am in fact judging you or anyone who believes Jimmy Buffett or anyone who participates in activities even remotely similar cares for the environment like they claim. Actually, I am not judging you either. I just think you are wrong. I am a die hard capitalist (like Jimmy and Warren) and I do stuff all the time that hurts the environment. Jimmy Buffett just takes it to an epic level. I admire the conviction with which he does it and then says otherwise - in an odd sort of paradoxical way. His business. Not mine or yours. But your opinion on the reality of this, and really don't mean to sound insulting, much like Jimmy's massive fleet of fuel burning aircraft, is not grounded.

He used to use a Grumman Widgeon Seaplane to go striper fishing Ever see one of those things take off? Billowing smoke from all the oil burning that he would fly back and land (when he wasn't crashing it) and then take a smaller boat back out to his yacht. . . some things are just funny.

[surfpirate]

.....I don't judge him for anything.

I beg to differ. Your entire posts, while not without some merit,
are scathingly judgemental.

I am in fact judging you or anyone who believes Jimmy Buffett or anyone who participates in activities even remotely similar cares for the environment like they claim. Actually, I am not judging you either. I just think you are wrong. I am a die hard capitalist (like Jimmy and Warren) and I do stuff all the time that hurts the environment. Jimmy Buffett just takes it to an epic level. I admire the conviction with which he does it and then says otherwise - in an odd sort of paradoxical way. His business. Not mine or yours. But your opinion on the reality of this, and really don't mean to sound insulting, much like Jimmy's massive fleet of fuel burning aircraft, is not grounded.

He used to use a Grumman Widgeon Seaplane to go striper fishing Ever see one of those things take off? Billowing smoke from all the oil burning that he would fly back and land (when he wasn't crashing it) and then take a smaller boat back out to his yacht. . . some things are just funny.

Message and written tone well received.
I can handle being judged.

[Tiki Torches]

I have it on good authority that Buffett took some advice from Neil Young and Willie Nelson and that all of his vehicles (planes included) run on recycled bong water. May be just a rumor though.

[sonofabeach]

I guess "A lot to Drink About" or "When This War is Over" on Nadirah's album is as far as he'll go politically on wax.

As long as he doesn't job himself out like this:

[surfpirate]

I guess A lot to Drink About" or "When This War is Over" on Nadirah's album is as far as he'll go politically on wax.

Could be worse. Both Hank Jr. and Donald Trump have thrown hissy fits over the past 24 hours via Twitter,
but No Longer Relevant Rocker TED NUGENT has totally flipped
in his Utter Hatred of Obama with
name calling of the most perverse kind .... Nugent calls Obama a "SUBHUMAN VARMINT"
in his latest round of tweets.

[Bicycle Bill]

"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." .....A. Lincoln

Too bad Nugent never learned that when he was a kid.

-"BB"-