True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
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Jackson is playing casinos..... dude you are on drugsBucarader wrote:Here is what the email from Live Nation says:
It looks to me like Jackson Browne is going to get a fairly long set. And I fear this will translate into Jimmy only playing about 15-20 songs.
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Blah blah blah ...what's it cost to get in a Jackson Browne casino show? #NotMuch #NoBodyGivesAsHitaBoutJacksonTiki Torches wrote:True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
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You're only making my point for me in regards to how some of the Parrothead crowd doesn't have any respect for Jackson Browne. Thankfully Buffett does or else they wouldn't have shared bills together back in the 70's or wouldn't be sharing a couple in 2013. In regards to Jackson playing casinos, I see from his tour dates that only one is listed. Not to mention that Buffett has also played casinos. Same thing for the Grateful Dead and other artists. It's not as though he's playing county fairs, or worse, Branson.clearlakeparrot wrote:Blah blah blah ...what's it cost to get in a Jackson Browne casino show? #NotMuch #NoBodyGivesAsHitaBoutJacksonTiki Torches wrote:True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
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Congrats, Tiki. After years of lurkdom here I finally joined.
I grew up (supposedly) in the '70s listening to Jackson Browne. The guy is quite awesome and I hope he puts on a great show. That Freebird video rocks. I intend to yell that out for him to play, carefully saving my voice for when Nadirah sings lead.
Has nobody noticed that show time was moved up an hour earlier this year?
This is an acoustic show for Mr. Browne, so my theory is that he will play for about an hour and none of us Parrotheads will get shorted on any of Jimmy's show. There. I called it. We'll know all the answers May 4th in Frisco.
I grew up (supposedly) in the '70s listening to Jackson Browne. The guy is quite awesome and I hope he puts on a great show. That Freebird video rocks. I intend to yell that out for him to play, carefully saving my voice for when Nadirah sings lead.
Has nobody noticed that show time was moved up an hour earlier this year?
This is an acoustic show for Mr. Browne, so my theory is that he will play for about an hour and none of us Parrotheads will get shorted on any of Jimmy's show. There. I called it. We'll know all the answers May 4th in Frisco.
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The 5 previous times that Buffett played Frisco the shows all started at 7:30 so this year's show is only 1/2 hour earlier. And I don't think Jackson Browne's doing an acoustic show, the article I saw when the show was announced said "Jackson Browne and his band." If it was acoustic, I would expect it to be just Jackson and his piano and/or guitar.Tuco wrote:Has nobody noticed that show time was moved up an hour earlier this year?
This is an acoustic show for Mr. Browne, so my theory is that he will play for about an hour and none of us Parrotheads will get shorted on any of Jimmy's show. There. I called it. We'll know all the answers May 4th in Frisco.
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Correct, it's with his bandLIPH wrote:The 5 previous times that Buffett played Frisco the shows all started at 7:30 so this year's show is only 1/2 hour earlier. And I don't think Jackson Browne's doing an acoustic show, the article I saw when the show was announced said "Jackson Browne and his band." If it was acoustic, I would expect it to be just Jackson and his piano and/or guitar.Tuco wrote:Has nobody noticed that show time was moved up an hour earlier this year?
This is an acoustic show for Mr. Browne, so my theory is that he will play for about an hour and none of us Parrotheads will get shorted on any of Jimmy's show. There. I called it. We'll know all the answers May 4th in Frisco.

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I don't see any reason why they both can't play full sets. Bands do that all the time, I doubt JB1 is going to cut his set short, and there is no reason JB2 can't play a full set ass well, plenty of time.
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Interesting quote in today's Washington Post from TV Reviewer Hank Stuever.
Stuever is reviewing a new 2 part documentary on the Eagles which airs
tonight (Friday 2/15) and tomorrow night on Showtime .... "History of the Eagles".
From the article:
Stuever is reviewing a new 2 part documentary on the Eagles which airs
tonight (Friday 2/15) and tomorrow night on Showtime .... "History of the Eagles".
From the article:
I don't have Showtime. I'd like to see this documentary.The film also nimbly recounts the ways the band contributed to (and capitalized on)
the emergence of a Southern California country-rock sound 40 years ago.
[Glenn] Frey recalls what it was like to live in a Los Angeles apartment
above a young Jackson Browne, overhearing the singer-songwriter diligently
trying to finish "Doctor My Eyes," day after agonizing day. It taught Frey
how hard it is to write a song - and made him realize that he would always
need other musicians to help him do it.
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Browne and Frey cowrote the Eagles first hit, Take it Easy. Didn't know the background story, though. That does sound like a show to watch.surfpirate wrote:Interesting quote in today's Washington Post from TV Reviewer Hank Stuever.
Stuever is reviewing a new 2 part documentary on the Eagles which airs
tonight (Friday 2/15) and tomorrow night on Showtime .... "History of the Eagles".
From the article:I don't have Showtime. I'd like to see this documentary.The film also nimbly recounts the ways the band contributed to (and capitalized on)
the emergence of a Southern California country-rock sound 40 years ago.
[Glenn] Frey recalls what it was like to live in a Los Angeles apartment
above a young Jackson Browne, overhearing the singer-songwriter diligently
trying to finish "Doctor My Eyes," day after agonizing day. It taught Frey
how hard it is to write a song - and made him realize that he would always
need other musicians to help him do it.
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I don't care a lot for the Eagles but as a fan of music in general I wouldn't mind seeing that documentary. Like the tagline for VH1's Behind the Music used to say, "we even make Tony Orlando seem interesting".
For those that are fans of the whole Southern California/Laurel Canyon thing, this documentary called From the Byrds To the Eagles that aired on the BBC a few years back is well worth watching. It's been posted in seven parts on YouTube. Also highly recommended is Troubadours: Carole King / James Taylor & The Rise of the Singer-Songwriter (which you can watch here) and The Legends of Laurel Canyon.
For those that are fans of the whole Southern California/Laurel Canyon thing, this documentary called From the Byrds To the Eagles that aired on the BBC a few years back is well worth watching. It's been posted in seven parts on YouTube. Also highly recommended is Troubadours: Carole King / James Taylor & The Rise of the Singer-Songwriter (which you can watch here) and The Legends of Laurel Canyon.
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Austin show is set for 8pm. I bet we get a shorter Buffett set.
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More about the poster and the song here- viewtopic.php?f=1&t=86944&hilit=comanche+sky+parkTiki Torches wrote:Cool poster, thanks for posting. As for Jackson's solo tour, I'm pretty sure that's how he's been touring for the past several years. As I previously mentioned, he's released a couple acoustic CD's from those shows. They're very worthy additions to the collections of anyone that's a Jackson Browne fan. Same thing for the double album live set he released with David Lindley. His last studio record isn't bad at all either, definitely far superior to Buffet Hotel and I say that as someone who's a fan of the majority of that album.
Another poster from that same time period that included Buffett and Zevon.
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Thanks, TT. I just watched all 7 parts of Byrds to Eagles. Very interesting to me. That music is the soundtrack of my adolescence. Still can't believe how many concerts I went to in the mid to late 70's, at about 17.00 a pop for tix. What a time.Tiki Torches wrote:I don't care a lot for the Eagles but as a fan of music in general I wouldn't mind seeing that documentary. Like the tagline for VH1's Behind the Music used to say, "we even make Tony Orlando seem interesting".
For those that are fans of the whole Southern California/Laurel Canyon thing, this documentary called From the Byrds To the Eagles that aired on the BBC a few years back is well worth watching. It's been posted in seven parts on YouTube. Also highly recommended is Troubadours: Carole King / James Taylor & The Rise of the Singer-Songwriter (which you can watch here) and The Legends of Laurel Canyon.
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Start time for Austin now says 7pm
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I only saw a handful of concerts in the 70's (Buffett/Nantucket/The Spinners, Kiss, the Allman Brothers Band, Outlaws/Poco/Van Halen/Boston, Derringer/Outlaws/Foghat) all of which were $10 or less. To the best of my recollection, the prices didn't go up to the $17 mark (at least around here) until the 80's. Even then, some bands (like the Grateful Dead) managed to keep them down around $10, at least at the beginning of the decade.sistergoldenhair wrote:Thanks, TT. I just watched all 7 parts of Byrds to Eagles. Very interesting to me. That music is the soundtrack of my adolescence. Still can't believe how many concerts I went to in the mid to late 70's, at about 17.00 a pop for tix. What a time.
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your point failed miserablyTiki Torches wrote:You're only making my point for me in regards to how some of the Parrothead crowd doesn't have any respect for Jackson Browne. Thankfully Buffett does or else they wouldn't have shared bills together back in the 70's or wouldn't be sharing a couple in 2013. In regards to Jackson playing casinos, I see from his tour dates that only one is listed. Not to mention that Buffett has also played casinos. Same thing for the Grateful Dead and other artists. It's not as though he's playing county fairs, or worse, Branson.clearlakeparrot wrote:Blah blah blah ...what's it cost to get in a Jackson Browne casino show? #NotMuch #NoBodyGivesAsHitaBoutJacksonTiki Torches wrote:True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
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So it's ok that Buffett plays casinos but not Jackson Browne? Not to mention the fact that Jackson is only playing one on his current tour. On top of that, he and Buffett are playing two shows together. Obviously, they think enough of one another to share a bill.clearlakeparrot wrote:your point failed miserablyTiki Torches wrote:You're only making my point for me in regards to how some of the Parrothead crowd doesn't have any respect for Jackson Browne. Thankfully Buffett does or else they wouldn't have shared bills together back in the 70's or wouldn't be sharing a couple in 2013. In regards to Jackson playing casinos, I see from his tour dates that only one is listed. Not to mention that Buffett has also played casinos. Same thing for the Grateful Dead and other artists. It's not as though he's playing county fairs, or worse, Branson.clearlakeparrot wrote:Blah blah blah ...what's it cost to get in a Jackson Browne casino show? #NotMuch #NoBodyGivesAsHitaBoutJacksonTiki Torches wrote:True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
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No doubt Browne appeals to some different people but I definitely would not lump him into a "casino crowd? Maybe it's a regional thing, but Browne has been playing small theatres and music festivals around here There is a trend for some musicians ( James Taylor, Jackson Browne, Lindsey Buckingham) to do these smaller shows. All three of these played the Durham performing arts center near my house and tickets were well over $100 . These are places very similar to where Mac Macanally might play.clearlakeparrot wrote:Blah blah blah ...what's it cost to get in a Jackson Browne casino show? #NotMuch #NoBodyGivesAsHitaBoutJacksonTiki Torches wrote:True that Buffett is the bigger draw these days but my thoughts were based on Jackson's accomplishments as a songwriter. He's managed to maintain his prowess over the years while Buffett's abilities in that area have slipped dramatically. Today, Buffett's drawing crowds largely based on the party atmosphere that has been perpetuated by the Parrothead phenomenon. Prior to the Parrothead thing catching fire, like when Buffett was opening for Browne and Zevon in the 70's, the songwriting aspect of Buffett's appeal was still intact. These days, a whole lot of people scoff at the idea of Buffett as a songwriter because that aspect of his appeal has been clouded by the whole Parrothead thing. It's in that respect that I believe Jackson Browne should be the headliner, not Buffett. These days Browne is by far the superior songwriter of the two, at least in my opinion. There was a time when they were neck in neck in that department but those days have long since passed for Buffett. Browne might throw out the occasional cover in concert but not to the degree that Buffett does. Same thing when it comes to Buffett's more recent albums. You're going to find far more original material on Jackson's than you are on Buffett's. That alone doesn't automatically make Jackson's songs better but he's somehow managed to maintain a high water mark as a songwriter throughout his career while Buffett hasn't, at least to my ears (and I say that as a fan of both artists). All that said, I'm very glad to see him and Jackson sharing a bill with each other, no matter who's opening. I'd love to see him do more of that, perhaps even an entire tour. They have a past together that many evidently aren't aware of but I, for one, am glad to see them pairing up for a couple shows. However, judging from several of the responses here, a full fledged Browne/Buffett tour wouldn't sit too well with many of Buffett's fans. I find that very unfortunate.msu#1 wrote:and the poster who said Brown should be opening for Jimmy is crazy. Jackson Browne would have a hard time filling middle sized theaters and there's no way he would sell out a 20 show shed tour like Jimmy.
As for Browne, anyone who has never listened to his Solo Acoustic Albums I and II - you should. He is an amazing story teller, songwriter and guitar player. I love his music as do many others. Quite honestly - if I were given a choice to see Buffett one more time or Browne (for the first time). I'd choose Browne in a heartbeat. Not because I love Jimmy's music any less. But because I love many types of music.
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Alice Cooper, Willie Nelson, Neil Young and tons of other very well known artists have also played the DPAC in recent years. Some of these folks play theatre sized venues such as the DPAC because they want to offer their audience a more intimate experience, which is most definitely the case with someone like Jackson Browne and Neil Young who were doing solo acoustic tours at the time. So, it's not like they played there out of necessity and even if they were, I don't see anything the matter with it. I would much rather see and hear live music in those size venues opposed to an enormo-dome any day of the week.
