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34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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Every day at work for 32 years, and every time I cross the over the
river on one of the bridges, I can see the cloud from the cooling tower. :pirate:
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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It's perception. The media wants a scary story so they take an incident where zero people's health was affected and make it sound like a major disaster. More people have been killed by hydro-electric dams failing than nuclear energy accidents in the US but it's a popular target for the media because so many people don't really understand how nuclear power really works.
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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LiveandletLiver wrote:It's perception. The media wants a scary story so they take an incident where zero people's health was affected and make it sound like a major disaster. More people have been killed by hydro-electric dams failing than nuclear energy accidents in the US but it's a popular target for the media because so many people don't really understand how nuclear power really works.
To the contrary, I have a couple of friends that were working there at the time and lots of people's lives were in danger, it was just covered up by the powers that be.
Today, his (Randall Thompson's) story about what he witnessed at Three Mile Island is being brought to the public in detail for the first time -- and his version of what happened during that time, supported by a growing body of other scientific evidence, contradicts the official U.S. government story that the Three Mile Island accident posed no threat to the public.

"What happened at TMI was a whole lot worse than what has been reported," Randall Thompson told Facing South. "Hundreds of times worse."

Thompson and his wife, Joy, a nuclear health physicist who also worked at TMI in the disaster's aftermath, claim that what they witnessed there was a public health tragedy. The Thompsons also warn that the government's failure to acknowledge the full scope of the disaster is leading officials to underestimate the risks posed by a new generation of nuclear power plants.
This is from an article that ran in 2009 from the Institute for Southern Studies. To read the entire article click on the link below.

Investigation: Revelations about Three Mile Island disaster raise doubts over nuclear plant safety
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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Tiki Torches wrote:
LiveandletLiver wrote:It's perception. The media wants a scary story so they take an incident where zero people's health was affected and make it sound like a major disaster. More people have been killed by hydro-electric dams failing than nuclear energy accidents in the US but it's a popular target for the media because so many people don't really understand how nuclear power really works.
To the contrary, I have a couple of friends that were working there at the time and lots of people's lives were in danger, it was just covered up by the powers that be.
Today, his (Randall Thompson's) story about what he witnessed at Three Mile Island is being brought to the public in detail for the first time -- and his version of what happened during that time, supported by a growing body of other scientific evidence, contradicts the official U.S. government story that the Three Mile Island accident posed no threat to the public.

"What happened at TMI was a whole lot worse than what has been reported," Randall Thompson told Facing South. "Hundreds of times worse."

Thompson and his wife, Joy, a nuclear health physicist who also worked at TMI in the disaster's aftermath, claim that what they witnessed there was a public health tragedy. The Thompsons also warn that the government's failure to acknowledge the full scope of the disaster is leading officials to underestimate the risks posed by a new generation of nuclear power plants.
This is from an article that ran in 2009 from the Institute for Southern Studies. To read the entire article click on the link below.

Investigation: Revelations about Three Mile Island disaster raise doubts over nuclear plant safety
So hundreds or thousands of people had their health affected and it was covered up?

That's impossible and the kind of scare mongering the anti-nuke crowd loves to use.
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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LiveandletLiver wrote:
Tiki Torches wrote:
LiveandletLiver wrote:It's perception. The media wants a scary story so they take an incident where zero people's health was affected and make it sound like a major disaster. More people have been killed by hydro-electric dams failing than nuclear energy accidents in the US but it's a popular target for the media because so many people don't really understand how nuclear power really works.
To the contrary, I have a couple of friends that were working there at the time and lots of people's lives were in danger, it was just covered up by the powers that be.
Today, his (Randall Thompson's) story about what he witnessed at Three Mile Island is being brought to the public in detail for the first time -- and his version of what happened during that time, supported by a growing body of other scientific evidence, contradicts the official U.S. government story that the Three Mile Island accident posed no threat to the public.

"What happened at TMI was a whole lot worse than what has been reported," Randall Thompson told Facing South. "Hundreds of times worse."

Thompson and his wife, Joy, a nuclear health physicist who also worked at TMI in the disaster's aftermath, claim that what they witnessed there was a public health tragedy. The Thompsons also warn that the government's failure to acknowledge the full scope of the disaster is leading officials to underestimate the risks posed by a new generation of nuclear power plants.
This is from an article that ran in 2009 from the Institute for Southern Studies. To read the entire article click on the link below.

Investigation: Revelations about Three Mile Island disaster raise doubts over nuclear plant safety
So hundreds or thousands of people had their health affected and it was covered up?
Did you read the article? From your completely uninformed response I'm guessing you didn't. Try reading it and then we can actually have a discussion about it.
LiveandletLiver wrote:That's impossible and the kind of scare mongering the anti-nuke crowd loves to use.
I'll take the word of a trained nuclear physicist over someone on a message board expressing a knee jerk reaction any day of the week. Again, read the article prior to responding as you're completely off-base here.
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I remember this very well - we can see the smoke from the "towers" on a clear day.
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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Tiki Torches wrote:
LiveandletLiver wrote:
Tiki Torches wrote:
LiveandletLiver wrote:It's perception. The media wants a scary story so they take an incident where zero people's health was affected and make it sound like a major disaster. More people have been killed by hydro-electric dams failing than nuclear energy accidents in the US but it's a popular target for the media because so many people don't really understand how nuclear power really works.
To the contrary, I have a couple of friends that were working there at the time and lots of people's lives were in danger, it was just covered up by the powers that be.
Today, his (Randall Thompson's) story about what he witnessed at Three Mile Island is being brought to the public in detail for the first time -- and his version of what happened during that time, supported by a growing body of other scientific evidence, contradicts the official U.S. government story that the Three Mile Island accident posed no threat to the public.

"What happened at TMI was a whole lot worse than what has been reported," Randall Thompson told Facing South. "Hundreds of times worse."

Thompson and his wife, Joy, a nuclear health physicist who also worked at TMI in the disaster's aftermath, claim that what they witnessed there was a public health tragedy. The Thompsons also warn that the government's failure to acknowledge the full scope of the disaster is leading officials to underestimate the risks posed by a new generation of nuclear power plants.
This is from an article that ran in 2009 from the Institute for Southern Studies. To read the entire article click on the link below.

Investigation: Revelations about Three Mile Island disaster raise doubts over nuclear plant safety
So hundreds or thousands of people had their health affected and it was covered up?
Did you read the article? From your completely uninformed response I'm guessing you didn't. Try reading it and then we can actually have a discussion about it.
LiveandletLiver wrote:That's impossible and the kind of scare mongering the anti-nuke crowd loves to use.
I'll take the word of a trained nuclear physicist over someone on a message board expressing a knee jerk reaction any day of the week. Again, read the article prior to responding as you're completely off-base here.
All of the "facts" in this article are anecdotal and undocumented other than a biased writers compilation. People swear they are abducted by aliens too. I repeat there is no way anyone could cover up a mass cancer outbreak surrounding TMI. I'm not going to change your mind but my opinion is as valid as anyone with objectivity.
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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LiveandletLiver wrote:All of the "facts" in this article are anecdotal and undocumented other than a biased writers compilation. People swear they are abducted by aliens too. I repeat there is no way anyone could cover up a mass cancer outbreak surrounding TMI. I'm not going to change your mind but my opinion is as valid as anyone with objectivity.
The only "bias" being expressed here is on your part. Sue Sturgis is a well regarded, seasoned investigative reporter who backs up her claims with facts. If you doubt her abilities as a reporter, why not question her yourself? She can very easily be contacted if you want to question her credentials or her ability to objectively report on this topic. I'm sure she can also provide the evidence she used in this report in order to back up the Thompson's claims. If you would actually take the time to read this article you would see it is teeming with cold, hard evidence provided not only from Randall Thompson but other contributors to the investigation as well. Thompson is a trained nuclear physicist that was hired by none other than TMI for this investigation. What level of expertise and experience do you have in these areas that lends weight to your claims that the information provided is false or that Sturgis is a biased reporter?
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Re: 34 Years Ago - Three Mile Island

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Obviously you are an anti-nuker yourself and it's your right to be one. I disagree and as I said we are not going to change each other's minds so get off the high horse and we'll get back to trivia and music as I'm not going to spend days trying to refute claims that you will believe no matter what.
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LiveandletLiver wrote:Obviously you are an anti-nuker yourself and it's your right to be one. I disagree and as I said we are not going to change each other's minds so get off the high horse and we'll get back to trivia and music as I'm not going to spend days trying to refute claims that you will believe no matter what.
I'm not on any "high horse" nor have I said a single thing about being a "anti-nuker". You claimed that Sue Sturgis is a "biased" reporter and that her article isn't supported by any actual facts. I've merely pointed out that she isn't biased in the least and that the article is rife with factual evidence that supports Randall Thompson's claims which totally contradicts your assumptions. You, on the other hand have brought nothing to the discussion other than unsubstantiated claims that Sturgis is biased and that she doesn't provide any evidence to support her claims when in fact, the exact opposite is true. Are you a nuclear physicist? Have you gone out in the field and conducted research on the effects of nuclear radiation on the residents of Harrisburg, PA? Were you at Three Mile Island when this incident occurred monitoring radiation levels? You've asked these people to provide evidence, all of which you've refuted out of hand because you apparently lack the comprehensive reading skills required to understand the report Sue Sturgis wrote for the Institute for Southern Studies. Where is your evidence that counters her and the Thompson's findings? So far, I've seen none, not a single shred. In so doing, you don't have a leg to stand on.
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In a who gives a damb post...our Parrothead Club does roadside clean up here a few times a year. We call it a treasure hunt because we always find some piece of p0rn. Be it a magazine, dvd or toys. Our theory is the workers ditch it when caught with it. No research has been done on this. I am not a nuclear expert or an expert on p0rn. Carry on with your debate. Just adding some levity and some who gives a damb local flavor.
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backstreets77 wrote:In a who gives a damb post...our Parrothead Club does roadside clean up here a few times a year. We call it a treasure hunt because we always find some piece of p0rn. Be it a magazine, dvd or toys. Our theory is the workers ditch it when caught with it. No research has been done on this. I am not a nuclear expert or an expert on p0rn. Carry on with your debate. Just adding some levity and some who gives a damb local flavor.
My point is, if you're going to dispute something and call folks out on it for being biased and not providing actual evidence at least provide some facts and an unbiased perspective of your own to substantiate your claims. Whether LiveandletLiver chooses to acknowledge it or not, real lives were affected by the tragedy at Three Mile Island and that is something we should all give a damn about.
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Nope. I wasnt saying who gives a damb to either of your arguments. I was saying it about my trivial post. As in Tim who cares you pick up tras there.....We are having a serious discussion. Lol. That was all. I still like the Drive By Truckers...please dont be mad at me. Lol!
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No comment on the veracity of the threat, but I was in college in Jersey (Montclair State) andI remember the newscasts being verrry serious. I also have relatives in Tokyo, they came to stay with us after the tsunami, went back a few weeks later b/c that's where their life is, but I STILL do NOT believe that we know what is really going on there ... and I wonder about the implications for my little five-year-old Japanese- American (Italian, Irish, French, German, ADORABLE) nephew, Guess we just have to hope for the best ... so play nice i the sandbox, fruitcakes ..
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