$20 concert tickets, Kid?

[Nighthawk]

We can all blame one of the greats for starting this trend. Back in 1994 when the Eagles had the Hell Freezes over tour... They were the first to charge $40 for a lawn seat. Where as the most it would cost to sit in lawn anywhere would be $20, and that was usually the most. I have stubs from the same time period, where I paid like 15 dollars for a lawn seat for aerosmith, who now charges over $125 for a ticket. I even have a stub from a Tom Petty show I went to where we paid under $10 for a lawn seat.

the Eagles charged $30 or $35 for Shoreline (third night of the tour)

Someone we know, sold them for $75

Nothing wrong with that. Ticket was yours. Someone else wanted it. You named your price, and they payed it. No harm was done. Something is only worth as much as someone will pay for it.

[ragtopW]

OK let's see Robert Cray last night $30
J.D Souther. Saturday $28
Gallic Storm $20 in November
Preservation Hall Jazz Band $45 In September
Asleep at the Wheel $25
All small shows and all things considered: fair prices
Zac Brown $50 -70

Willie Nelson $60
Steely Day $60

I have not seen Kid Rock but might be able to sit through an Ad or two. as long as he doesn't pull a ZZ Top
and stop playing some songs due to sponsor disapproval

[Tiki Torches]

We can all blame one of the greats for starting this trend. Back in 1994 when the Eagles had the Hell Freezes over tour... They were the first to charge $40 for a lawn seat. Where as the most it would cost to sit in lawn anywhere would be $20, and that was usually the most. I have stubs from the same time period, where I paid like 15 dollars for a lawn seat for aerosmith, who now charges over $125 for a ticket. I even have a stub from a Tom Petty show I went to where we paid under $10 for a lawn seat.

the Eagles charged $30 or $35 for Shoreline (third night of the tour)

Someone we know, sold them for $75

Nothing wrong with that. Ticket was yours. Someone else wanted it. You named your price, and they payed it. No harm was done. Something is only worth as much as someone will pay for it.

Except that it's scalping to sell them for more than face value. Speaking just for myself, I occasionally end up with a spare ticket and have never sold them for more than what I paid for them for as long as I've been going to concerts. In fact, I usually sell them for less, not because I'm trying to abide by the law but because I want to. If you're selling them to make a profit off of someone I would consider you to be an opportunistic a$$hole that's probably into music (or at the concert) for all the wrong reasons. One of which would be not to profit off of your fellow music fans. Strong words but that's just how I see it. I'd rather cut someone a break and at least knock off the price of the so called "convenience" fees.

As much as I love Cheap Trick, they may have just one upped the Eagles. Primo seats for their upcoming show at the Carolina Theatre in Durham are going for $300 (which includes some sort of VIP meet and greet). I realize it's a pretty intimate venue for them to be playing and there's also the meet and greet factor but that's far too much to pay for concert tickets. Leon Russell, Dickey Betts, John Hiatt, Colin Meloy (Decemberists) and Ani DeFranco will all be playing there in the weeks (and months) to come but all of their ticket prices are pretty reasonable. That said, you can pay as little as $56 to sit in the balcony for the Cheap Trick show if you so choose.

[ragtopW]

We can all blame one of the greats for starting this trend. Back in 1994 when the Eagles had the Hell Freezes over tour... They were the first to charge $40 for a lawn seat. Where as the most it would cost to sit in lawn anywhere would be $20, and that was usually the most. I have stubs from the same time period, where I paid like 15 dollars for a lawn seat for aerosmith, who now charges over $125 for a ticket. I even have a stub from a Tom Petty show I went to where we paid under $10 for a lawn seat.

the Eagles charged $30 or $35 for Shoreline (third night of the tour)

Someone we know, sold them for $75

Nothing wrong with that. Ticket was yours. Someone else wanted it. You named your price, and they payed it. No harm was done. Something is only worth as much as someone will pay for it.

Except that it's scalping to sell them for more than face value. Speaking just for myself, I occasionally end up with a spare ticket and have never sold them for more than what I paid for them for as long as I've been going to concerts. In fact, I usually sell them for less, not because I'm trying to abide by the law but because I want to. If you're selling them to make a profit off of someone I would consider you to be an opportunistic a$$hole that's probably into music (or at the concert) for all the wrong reasons. One of which would be not to profit off of your fellow music fans. Strong words but that's just how I see it. I'd rather cut someone a break and at least knock off the price of the so called "convenience" fees.

As much as I love Cheap Trick, they may have just one upped the Eagles. Primo seats for their upcoming show at the Carolina Theatre in Durham are going for $300 (which includes some sort of VIP meet and greet). I realize it's a pretty intimate venue for them to be playing and there's also the meet and greet factor but that's far too much to pay for concert tickets. Leon Russell, Dickey Betts, John Hiatt, Colin Meloy (Decemberists) and Ani DeFranco will all be playing there in the weeks (and months) to come but all of their ticket prices are pretty reasonable. That said, you can pay as little as $56 to sit in the balcony for the Cheap Trick show if you so choose.

Please remember that this was when people actually waited inline over night for tix.. yep I expected to get paid for my trouble
OR took the trouble to find a source that could provide with the best seats (hint hint Mayors/Governor's/Congressmen's/Senators aids

I scalped for years. may do so in the future.
you sound like the Deadheads that sold beer for a dollar each that they paid 6 bucks a Case for, and gave me grief for
selling 'Like tickets man" for a profit

[Tiki Torches]

We can all blame one of the greats for starting this trend. Back in 1994 when the Eagles had the Hell Freezes over tour... They were the first to charge $40 for a lawn seat. Where as the most it would cost to sit in lawn anywhere would be $20, and that was usually the most. I have stubs from the same time period, where I paid like 15 dollars for a lawn seat for aerosmith, who now charges over $125 for a ticket. I even have a stub from a Tom Petty show I went to where we paid under $10 for a lawn seat.

the Eagles charged $30 or $35 for Shoreline (third night of the tour)

Someone we know, sold them for $75

Nothing wrong with that. Ticket was yours. Someone else wanted it. You named your price, and they payed it. No harm was done. Something is only worth as much as someone will pay for it.

Except that it's scalping to sell them for more than face value. Speaking just for myself, I occasionally end up with a spare ticket and have never sold them for more than what I paid for them for as long as I've been going to concerts. In fact, I usually sell them for less, not because I'm trying to abide by the law but because I want to. If you're selling them to make a profit off of someone I would consider you to be an opportunistic a$$hole that's probably into music (or at the concert) for all the wrong reasons. One of which would be not to profit off of your fellow music fans. Strong words but that's just how I see it. I'd rather cut someone a break and at least knock off the price of the so called "convenience" fees.

As much as I love Cheap Trick, they may have just one upped the Eagles. Primo seats for their upcoming show at the Carolina Theatre in Durham are going for $300 (which includes some sort of VIP meet and greet). I realize it's a pretty intimate venue for them to be playing and there's also the meet and greet factor but that's far too much to pay for concert tickets. Leon Russell, Dickey Betts, John Hiatt, Colin Meloy (Decemberists) and Ani DeFranco will all be playing there in the weeks (and months) to come but all of their ticket prices are pretty reasonable. That said, you can pay as little as $56 to sit in the balcony for the Cheap Trick show if you so choose.

Please remember that this was when people actually waited inline over night for tix.. yep I expected to get paid for my trouble
OR took the trouble to find a source that could provide with the best seats (hint hint Mayors/Governor's/Congressmen's/Senators aids

I scalped for years. may do so in the future.
you sound like the Deadheads that sold beer for a dollar each that they paid 6 bucks a Case for, and gave me grief for
selling 'Like tickets man" for a profit

If you're scalping tickets, it really doesn't matter to me who you're selling them to or how you obtained them, you're a problem to the industry in general and go against everything I hold dear about music and concert going in general. Lots of artists do everything they can to keep ticket prices down and to make them available to actual fans. Scalping runs completely counter to that philosophy and is something I'm vehemently against. Justify it however you want but it's not a practice I agree with. I've ended up with front row seats to a number of concerts over the years and never once did I stoop so low as to buy from a scalper to do so. Nor will l ever.

I don't get the Deadhead comparison at all. I'm referring to selling a ticket for less than what I paid for it. Occasionally, I may end up with a spare for a variety of reasons, none of which involves buying them to sell for a profit. Like I said, it doesn't happen a lot but on those rare occasions when I end up with a spare ticket, it's the last thing on my mind to make a profit off it. I'm a music fan and am not in it to make money. If I can knock off a few dollars of what I paid for a ticket in order to help someone else out I'd rather do that than charge them more than what I paid for it. Hell, sometimes I might even give a ticket away. That's certainly a kinder gesture than profiting off of people. That isn't what music or attending concerts means to me. Your mileage obviously varies. I know scalping is legal but it shouldn't be. Folks like yourself belong behind bars. That's how I feel about it.

[LiveandletLiver]

Sorry I disagree. I believe in a free market economy. That being said I don't think it's fair that scalpers get access to most of the good seats by devious means and it should be stopped BUT if I am skillful or lucky enough to get 4 seats up front and only need two I wouldn't feel bad about selling 2 of them to cover the cost of the 4. No one is forcing someone to buy them. I may get stuck with them and lose my money. That's the chance you take when you invest in tickets. I bought floor seats in Vegas last year on ebay at half price. Was I a dick for getting a deal? No, it all goes back to freedom to make choices. I chose to wait until prices dropped, the seller tried to make a fast buck and got stung.

This stuff usually works itself out.

[Tiki Torches]

Thing is, I've had no problem using perfectly legitimate means to obtain tickets over the years and have still been able to score seats in the front row (or at least the immediate vicinity) without resorting to scalpers. I'd rather give a ticket away than to see those people profit off of others. If you're selling tickets for a profit then you're part of the problem and aren't what I would refer to as a music fan. I'd rather take a loss, even if it just means knocking off the cost of the convenience charges than to rob fellow music fans of their hard earned money by profiting off of them. I consider scalpers to be low life thieves.

[surfpirate]

I can invest time and effort into getting good seats
camping out in line overnight perhaps (done that many a day),
and/or I can invest money to purchase good seats
when I don't have the time available or when I'm out of town
the day tickets go on sale.

Both are valid means for me to get tickets.
Getting really good seats aren't a "right", it take an investment of some sort.
Time or money.

[ragtopW]

here is the deal (from my seat)

when I was in "the game" I had a few ways to "beat the crowd" I could wait in line overnight (or tag team and wait for days on end), I could find the Ticket master farthest from the event and travel there (less pressure and you could go through
line multiple times if you had cash), OR I could find a source, as I said before people with stroke, (Or buy the kids at the Ticketmaster a keg of beer and they get you the tix early), As The Surfpirate said I put time and money into getting the tix
so I get to make a profit on them. most of my customers didn't have the "time" to be "bothered" to keep an eye out for
concerts and venues. they would wait until the week before the show and expect to have no less then fifth row seats
that my friend is going to cost you. some of my customers never bought at an outlet. never. when I left California
I got calls for two years asking for tix. yes I also got some lawns or General admissions (in the case of the Dead)
and sold them for what I could.

here is the deal. unless you work for the Government; you make money by selling, Services, goods, or knowledge.
you (or your company) have made investments on these products. Goods? that is obvious buy low sell high.
services? you need tools, equipment, training and time. Knowledge? you need training and time.
that is the way America pays it's bills.


and yes I have bought from Scalpers. I was the one that didn't get tickets before they sold out. or. I got a Date
and didn't think to get "good" tix in time. or in the case of my next trip, you almost can't get NFL tickets unless you go to the Sharks. do I like paying a shark? not really: am I going to in order to see Candlestick one more time? yes. (OH yes there are tix from the box office but the $399 per is a little steep)

[ragtopW]

on another Forum they are complaining about Ammo Hoarders going into a store and buying up the daily shipment and selling Ammo for 2-5 x the cost in the store
those are the people I would worry about being mad at me

[Tiki Torches]

Here's the deal from where I sit, I consider scalpers to be low life scum who are a bane to the concert industry as well as to avid concert goers such as myself. I'm not the type of fan to benefit from profiting off of others. In fact, if I have the opportunity to do so, I'll take a loss when getting rid of an extra ticket because that's just how I roll.

[LiveandletLiver]

In my lifetime I've probably seen as many varied musical genres as you have. I've seen The Stones, Elvis, Sinatra, Chuck Berry, Moody Blues (with philharmonic), The Kinks, The Who (their first show after Woodstock) Marvin Gaye, The Allman Bros at the Hollywood Bowl, Elton John, Rod Stewart...I can go on and on. This is entertainment to me not a church. I do feel lucky to have seen many of these acts before they passed but I just don't have your passion for it.

[Tiki Torches]

In my lifetime I've probably seen as many varied musical genres as you have. I've seen The Stones, Elvis, Sinatra, Chuck Berry, Moody Blues (with philharmonic), The Kinks, The Who (their first show after Woodstock) Marvin Gaye, The Allman Bros at the Hollywood Bowl, Elton John, Rod Stewart...I can go on and on. This is entertainment to me not a church. I do feel lucky to have seen many of these acts before they passed but I just don't have your passion for it.

Good to know I guess but I'm not sure what it has to do with ticket scalping. Most everyone I know that are avid concert goers feel exactly as I do. The thought of making a profit off of others simply doesn't cross our minds. If anything, I'm going to do what I can to help them out even if means giving a ticket away for free. I always thought Buffett fans prided themselves in "partying for a purpose" and supporting various charities. The fact that some of you prefer to rip people off by selling tickets at a profit or by supporting scalpers runs completely counter to that philosophy.

[PartofthePhlock]

I got myself a $20 ticket to see KID next Wednesday!!


$4 beers.............life is good!!!




Thank you KID!

[ragtopW]

I got myself a $20 ticket to see KID next Wednesday!!


$4 beers.............life is good!!!




Thank you KID!

SWEET!!!!!

[LiveandletLiver]

In my lifetime I've probably seen as many varied musical genres as you have. I've seen The Stones, Elvis, Sinatra, Chuck Berry, Moody Blues (with philharmonic), The Kinks, The Who (their first show after Woodstock) Marvin Gaye, The Allman Bros at the Hollywood Bowl, Elton John, Rod Stewart...I can go on and on. This is entertainment to me not a church. I do feel lucky to have seen many of these acts before they passed but I just don't have your passion for it.

Good to know I guess but I'm not sure what it has to do with ticket scalping. Most everyone I know that are avid concert goers feel exactly as I do. The thought of making a profit off of others simply doesn't cross our minds. If anything, I'm going to do what I can to help them out even if means giving a ticket away for free. I always thought Buffett fans prided themselves in "partying for a purpose" and supporting various charities. The fact that some of you prefer to rip people off by selling tickets at a profit or by supporting scalpers runs completely counter to that philosophy.

What it had to do with it was it didn't really make sense because of the three lines I deleted before I posted it calling you a pious hippie p****. I was trying to be nice but like most of your political bent you are judgmental about me instead of considering that others may not share your philosophy so here goes.

I really don't care if you give tickets away. I think it's stupid and fiscally irresponsible but like I said that's up to you. You on the other hand look down on anyone who makes a buck providing a wanted service like providing good seats another wants but didn't get. I posted my disdain of professional scalpers and their ability to get the good seats most of the time. However someone who gets seats by honest means has the right to sell them at any price they feel is fair and NO ONE should look down on them.

I probably give more to charity yearly than you make. My life is a gift and I treat it as such. I should be dead and when I 'party for a purpose' it includes multiple Relay's for Life as well as supporting local homes for battered women and children and animal adoption centers.

If you don't approve I'm sorry but the next time you run someone down as 'ripping people off' you may want to know them first.

[Nighthawk]

Remember, Scalpers are people too trying to earn a buck. Have I scalped, of course already said I did. I did it back way before the was no internet, before they did "lotteries" to get "wristband" That money I earned from the tickets was my PAY. I did all the work and got them. You slacked off and did nothing. Why not upcharge. I wasn't big into school events in HS. I had one girl who was on prom committee asking me to buy tickets for prom, told her I wasn't going, but if she were to buy some of my choice tickets to an Aerosmith show, maybe I would consider buying one. When I told her that the tickets were $300 bucks a piece for 9th row...... and said no, I told her that's how I feel about your prom ticket.

You snooze, you lose. Plain and simple. There is a price to pay if you want the good stuff in life. If you don't want to pay, you have no reason to complain, because someone else did all the leg work and has something you want.

[Tiki Torches]

If you sell a ticket for more than face value you're ripping people off. Not hard too figure out. As for why I may sell an extra ticket for less than face value or even give it away, it has nothing whatsoever to do with politics. I simply feel that it's the right thing to do.

[surfpirate]

That philosophy pretty much invalidates everything sold on eBay, any auction, Sothebys or any other art broker.
I don't agree. A transaction of any legitimately obtained product between a buyer and seller who mutually agree on a price
is nobody's business other than the buyer and seller and perhaps the IRS.

[Tiki Torches]

That philosophy pretty much invalidates everything sold on eBay, any auction, Sothebys or any other art broker.
I don't agree. A transaction of any legitimately obtained product between a buyer and seller who mutually agree on a price
is nobody's business other than the buyer and seller and perhaps the IRS.

Except when it causes performers from String Cheese Incident to Bruce Springsteen to implement measures to help circumvent scalping from occurring. I'm on the side of the people that wants to take tickets out of the hands of scalpers and put them into the hands of the fans, which is where they belong. If I want to sell an extra ticket for face value or less, or give it away, I'll do so. Scalpers and scum of their ilk be damned. Again, the whole mindset of profiting off of others by selling overpriced tickets runs counter to my beliefs.