The Affordable Care Act and YOU

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

Starting next month, the Blue Cross/Blue Shield is no longer affordable to my company, so it's being dropped. I have no idea what my choices will be now. I just wanna know what happened to "If you like your insurance/doctor now, you can keep it". Well I can't. And neither can my doctor.

The ACA is full of lies and more lies. Health care and insurance certainly needed to be changed, but this change appears to be hurting more people than it helps. It's BULLSH*T.

Amen Shipmate!

[drunkpirate66]

The Affordable Care Act is the worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States.

[Wino you know]

The Affordable Care Act is the worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States.

Yep!

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

The Affordable Care Act is the worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States.

If Congress had taken the time to read it before passing it they might have seen it was a pile of crap.

[Wino you know]

One of the Senators who was a co-sponsor of that insane-a$$ bill (Max Baucus of Montana) read it after it was passed and stated "It's a train wreck."

[drunkpirate66]

The Affordable Care Act is the worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States.

If Congress had taken the time to read it before passing it they might have seen it was a pile of crap.

If Liberals spent just one hour out of their lives researching the actual proposals set forth by the Obama administration in regards to the Affordable Care Act and not blindly agreeing to lies and/or inaccuracies said in his speeches (that held no substance) and then voting for him then we wouldn't have had to put any faith in Congress because, really, at this point they deserve none.

The only thing the ACA actually does is force 30 million people, by the law, to get insurance that will make some of the richest companies in the world even richer. It certainly does not help in any way, shape or form, the overwhelming amount of Americans who worked hard and built lives and homes and actually contributed something to society. And the truly scary thing is this: the ACA will never go away. Too many other agendas attached to it for that to ever happen.

[lime rickie]

The Affordable Care Act is the worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States.

If Congress had taken the time to read it before passing it they might have seen it was a pile of crap.

If Liberals spent just one hour out of their lives researching the actual proposals set forth by the Obama administration in regards to the Affordable Care Act and not blindly agreeing to lies and/or inaccuracies said in his speeches (that held no substance) and then voting for him then we wouldn't have had to put any faith in Congress because, really, at this point they deserve none.

The only thing the ACA actually does is force 30 million people, by the law, to get insurance that will make some of the richest companies in the world even richer. It certainly does not help in any way, shape or form, the overwhelming amount of Americans who worked hard and built lives and homes and actually contributed something to society. And the truly scary thing is this: the ACA will never go away. Too many other agendas attached to it for that to ever happen.

I think the ACA is a band aid to preserve maybe another ten years of commercial insurance as we know it. Single payer is coming, it's a matter of when not if.

[The Remittance Man]

my question is , if you don't take the medical Insurance , what happens if you have a medical emergency , will they deny you , and if that's the fact , and you had something potentially fatal , like a heart attack , would that be considered murder , because they refused to help.

1. That's exactly why people have to pay a penalty if they don't take any insurance. Someone is going to end up paying those bills, assuming they do get treatment.
2. What you describe already is what happens to people who don't have insurance (unless they can put their medical bills on their credit cards, in which case there's a great risk of ending up bankrupt). Do you consider that murder at the hands of the insurance industry, or the Republicans in Congress who spent 20 years blocking reform before ACA was passed?

I think the ACA is a band aid to preserve maybe another ten years of commercial insurance as we know it. Single payer is coming, it's a matter of when not if.

Heavens, I hope so. Amazing how much fierce opposition there is on the right when ACA is 1) based on a state system signed into law by none other than Mitt Romney, and 2) also quite unpopular on the left because it doesn't go anywhere near far enough.

[Bicycle Bill]

So now you've got many of the same Republicans who insisted last year that their boy Mittens could do no wrong who are willing to shut down the government, default on the government's debts, and trash the reputation of this country if they don't get their way.  This past weekend Jim Wright, who writes a blog called "Stonekettle Station", recently compared them to the leadership of the Japanese military towards the end of WWII.  He came up with the term "conservikaze" and drew the parallel between the Republicans who have publicly stated that they are willing to stand by and do nothing — in effect, abandon any pretense at bipartisanship and working for the good of the people of this country; the same people who elected them! — and the Japanese fanatics who knowingly chose suicide and the total humiliation of their way of life rather than face the facts that the war had been lost ever since the battle of Midway.

The only good thing is that once the kamikazes had done their thing they (and their mentality) were no longer a viable factor.  Here's hoping that after the ridiculously hard-lined 'conservikazes' in the Republican party have their own Götterdämmerung that we will be forever done with them and their policies as well.

-"BB"-

[krusin1]

So now you've got many of the same Republicans who insisted last year that their boy Mittens could do no wrong who are willing to shut down the government, default on the government's debts, and trash the reputation of this country if they don't get their way.  This past weekend Jim Wright, who writes a blog called "Stonekettle Station", recently compared them to the leadership of the Japanese military towards the end of WWII.  He came up with the term "conservikaze" and drew the parallel between the Republicans who have publicly stated that they are willing to stand by and do nothing — in effect, abandon any pretense at bipartisanship and working for the good of the people of this country; the same people who elected them! — and the Japanese fanatics who knowingly chose suicide and the total humiliation of their way of life rather than face the facts that the war had been lost ever since the battle of Midway.

The only good thing is that once the kamikazes had done their thing they (and their mentality) were no longer a viable factor.  Here's hoping that after the ridiculously hard-lined 'conservikazes' in the Republican party have their own Götterdämmerung that we will be forever done with them and their policies as well.

-"BB"-

wow..... just wow.... what do you say to a person who is THAT far out of touch with reality....

Whatever side you're on, this is a POLITICAL disagreement... Nobody's committing hari kari here. sheesh.

[Crazy Navy Flyer]

So now you've got many of the same Republicans who insisted last year that their boy Mittens could do no wrong who are willing to shut down the government, default on the government's debts, and trash the reputation of this country if they don't get their way.  This past weekend Jim Wright, who writes a blog called "Stonekettle Station", recently compared them to the leadership of the Japanese military towards the end of WWII.  He came up with the term "conservikaze" and drew the parallel between the Republicans who have publicly stated that they are willing to stand by and do nothing — in effect, abandon any pretense at bipartisanship and working for the good of the people of this country; the same people who elected them! — and the Japanese fanatics who knowingly chose suicide and the total humiliation of their way of life rather than face the facts that the war had been lost ever since the battle of Midway.

The only good thing is that once the kamikazes had done their thing they (and their mentality) were no longer a viable factor.  Here's hoping that after the ridiculously hard-lined 'conservikazes' in the Republican party have their own Götterdämmerung that we will be forever done with them and their policies as well.

-"BB"-

And here we go with the name calling. Time to shut this thread down.

[TommyBahama]

my question is , if you don't take the medical Insurance , what happens if you have a medical emergency , will they deny you , and if that's the fact , and you had something potentially fatal , like a heart attack , would that be considered murder , because they refused to help.

1. That's exactly why people have to pay a penalty if they don't take any insurance. Someone is going to end up paying those bills, assuming they do get treatment.
2. What you describe already is what happens to people who don't have insurance (unless they can put their medical bills on their credit cards, in which case there's a great risk of ending up bankrupt). Do you consider that murder at the hands of the insurance industry, or the Republicans in Congress who spent 20 years blocking reform before ACA was passed?

I think the ACA is a band aid to preserve maybe another ten years of commercial insurance as we know it. Single payer is coming, it's a matter of when not if.

Heavens, I hope so. Amazing how much fierce opposition there is on the right when ACA is 1) based on a state system signed into law by none other than Mitt Romney, and 2) also quite unpopular on the left because it doesn't go anywhere near far enough.

I read a article today , saying how most people ( young healthy adults , and unemployed) will pay the fine , the 1st year it's 95.00 , 2nd is 395.00 then 695.00 , the cost would be cheaper then insurance , and they won't deny you in the emergency room. They figured about 30 million people would pay the fines.

[Tiki Bar]

my question is , if you don't take the medical Insurance , what happens if you have a medical emergency , will they deny you , and if that's the fact , and you had something potentially fatal , like a heart attack , would that be considered murder , because they refused to help.

1. That's exactly why people have to pay a penalty if they don't take any insurance. Someone is going to end up paying those bills, assuming they do get treatment.
2. What you describe already is what happens to people who don't have insurance (unless they can put their medical bills on their credit cards, in which case there's a great risk of ending up bankrupt). Do you consider that murder at the hands of the insurance industry, or the Republicans in Congress who spent 20 years blocking reform before ACA was passed?

I think the ACA is a band aid to preserve maybe another ten years of commercial insurance as we know it. Single payer is coming, it's a matter of when not if.

Heavens, I hope so. Amazing how much fierce opposition there is on the right when ACA is 1) based on a state system signed into law by none other than Mitt Romney, and 2) also quite unpopular on the left because it doesn't go anywhere near far enough.

I read a article today , saying how most people ( young healthy adults , and unemployed) will pay the fine , the 1st year it's 95.00 , 2nd is 395.00 then 695.00 , the cost would be cheaper then insurance , and they won't deny you in the emergency room. They figured about 30 million people would pay the fines.

It sounds like a no-brainer unfortunately. We're living in an America where far too many people now ask what their country can do for them, instead of what they can do for their country. Government has gotten far too big for it's britches.

[Wino you know]

You are SO right, JoAnn.

[The Remittance Man]

I read a article today , saying how most people ( young healthy adults , and unemployed) will pay the fine , the 1st year it's 95.00 , 2nd is 395.00 then 695.00 , the cost would be cheaper then insurance , and they won't deny you in the emergency room. They figured about 30 million people would pay the fines.

Could you provide a link to that article? I'd be interested to see that argument.

[TommyBahama]

I read a article today , saying how most people ( young healthy adults , and unemployed) will pay the fine , the 1st year it's 95.00 , 2nd is 395.00 then 695.00 , the cost would be cheaper then insurance , and they won't deny you in the emergency room. They figured about 30 million people would pay the fines.

Could you provide a link to that article? I'd be interested to see that argument.

i'll try to find it , it was in a local paper that I read it , not off the internet. it was in the Republican-American , a newspaper out of Waterbury , CT. I tried to find it on the there web site , but no luck