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Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 11, 2014 2:25 pm
by catsway
Nice entertainment lineup! From PHIP.com:

23rd Annual Meeting of the Minds
Havana Daydreamin'
October 29th - November 2nd, 2014
(Key West, Florida)

Wednesday, October 29, 2014

8:30a - 11:30a Gift Bag Stuffing
Entertainment provided by Latitude TBA
10:00a - 12:00p Amy Lee & Woody Jenkins Casa Marina Beach Stage
12:00p - 2:00p Jimi Pappas Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 4:00p John Patti Project Casa Marina Beach Stage
4:00p - 6:00p Larry Joe Taylor Casa Marina Beach Stage
6:00p - 8:00p Don Middlebrook Casa Marina Beach Stage
8:00p - 10:00p Jerry Diaz & Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage
10:00p - 12:00a Tropical Soul Casa Marina Beach Stage

Thursday, October 30, 2014

9:00a-12:00p MINI MART PARTY-Calypso Nuts
10:00a - 12:00p Eric Stone Casa Marina Beach Stage
12:00p - 2:00p Thom Shepherd & Coley McCabe Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 4:00p Girlz Rule Casa Marina Beach Stage
4:00p - 5:30p Kelly McGuire & Sunny Jim Band w/Special Guest Keith Sykes West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
6:00p - 7:30p The Boat Drunks West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
8:00p - 9:30p The Will Kimbrough Band West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
10:00p - 11:30a Jimmy & The Parrots West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
11:45p - Until John Frinzi & Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage

Friday, October 31, 2014

10:00a - 12:00p Brent Burns Casa Marina Beach Stage
1:00p - 5:30p Margaritaville Street Fest
Jim Morris & The Big Bamboo Band
Howard Livingston & Mile Marker 24 Corner of Duval & Fleming Streets
7:00p - 7:35p Beachside Album Hour Commanche Sky Park With
Original Coral Reefer Band Members West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
7:45p - 9:15p Ramajay Intercoastal West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
9:45p - 11:15p The Peter Mayer Group - EXCLUSIVE West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
11:30p - Until The MOTM Late Night Jam W/Jerry Diaz & MOTM Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage

Saturday, November 01, 2014

12:00p - 1:30p Young Rebel Goombas Casa Marina West Lawn
2:00p - 3:30p The John Frinzi Band Casa Marina West Lawn
4:00p - 5:30p Marshall Chapman & The Wild Elephants - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
6:00p - 7:30p Mac McAnally - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
8:00p - 9:30p Jesse Winchester - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
10:00p - 11:30p Club Trini With The Entire Coral Reefer Band

Sunday, November 02, 2014

11:00a - 2:00p The Southern Drawl Band Unplugged Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 6:00p Sunny Jim's Songwriters Showcase Blue Heaven

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 11, 2014 5:13 pm
by Dr.Corona
catsway wrote:Nice entertainment lineup! From PHIP.com:

23rd Annual Meeting of the Minds
Havana Daydreamin'
October 29th - November 2nd, 2014
(Key West, Florida)

Wednesday, October 29, 2014

8:30a - 11:30a Gift Bag Stuffing
Entertainment provided by Latitude TBA
10:00a - 12:00p Amy Lee & Woody Jenkins Casa Marina Beach Stage
12:00p - 2:00p Jimi Pappas Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 4:00p John Patti Project Casa Marina Beach Stage
4:00p - 6:00p Larry Joe Taylor Casa Marina Beach Stage
6:00p - 8:00p Don Middlebrook Casa Marina Beach Stage
8:00p - 10:00p Jerry Diaz & Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage
10:00p - 12:00a Tropical Soul Casa Marina Beach Stage

Thursday, October 30, 2014

9:00a-12:00p MINI MART PARTY-Calypso Nuts
10:00a - 12:00p Eric Stone Casa Marina Beach Stage
12:00p - 2:00p Thom Shepherd & Coley McCabe Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 4:00p Girlz Rule Casa Marina Beach Stage
4:00p - 5:30p Kelly McGuire & Sunny Jim Band w/Special Guest Keith Sykes West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
6:00p - 7:30p The Boat Drunks West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
8:00p - 9:30p The Will Kimbrough Band West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
10:00p - 11:30a Jimmy & The Parrots West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
11:45p - Until John Frinzi & Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage

Friday, October 31, 2014

10:00a - 12:00p Brent Burns Casa Marina Beach Stage
1:00p - 5:30p Margaritaville Street Fest
Jim Morris & The Big Bamboo Band
Howard Livingston & Mile Marker 24 Corner of Duval & Fleming Streets
7:00p - 7:35p Beachside Album Hour Commanche Sky Park With
Original Coral Reefer Band Members West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
7:45p - 9:15p Ramajay Intercoastal West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
9:45p - 11:15p The Peter Mayer Group - EXCLUSIVE West Lawn of Casa Marina - Casa Marina Big Stage
11:30p - Until The MOTM Late Night Jam W/Jerry Diaz & MOTM Friends Casa Marina Beach Stage

Saturday, November 01, 2014

12:00p - 1:30p Young Rebel Goombas Casa Marina West Lawn
2:00p - 3:30p The John Frinzi Band Casa Marina West Lawn
4:00p - 5:30p Marshall Chapman & The Wild Elephants - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
6:00p - 7:30p Mac McAnally - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
8:00p - 9:30p Jesse Winchester - EXCLUSIVE Casa Marina West Lawn
10:00p - 11:30p Club Trini With The Entire Coral Reefer Band

Sunday, November 02, 2014

11:00a - 2:00p The Southern Drawl Band Unplugged Casa Marina Beach Stage
2:00p - 6:00p Sunny Jim's Songwriters Showcase Blue Heaven
Morris & Livingston doing the streetfest.........nice! 8) 8)

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 17, 2014 5:19 pm
by catsway
The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 17, 2014 11:40 pm
by ParrotHeadInThe Making
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 18, 2014 8:56 am
by catsway
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.
Thank you! This is very helpful. We are really looking forward to attending!

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 28, 2014 6:03 pm
by warmsugar
catsway wrote:
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.
Thank you! This is very helpful. We are really looking forward to attending!
Used the shuttle which was nice to have. It stopped running at midnight. Used the Pink Taxi when shuttle wasnt around.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 28, 2014 7:07 pm
by TommyBahama
warmsugar wrote:
catsway wrote:
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.
Thank you! This is very helpful. We are really looking forward to attending!
Used the shuttle which was nice to have. It stopped running at midnight. Used the Pink Taxi when shuttle wasnt around.
walk..really not all that far....it helps burn the calories from all the eating and drinking....I actually lost weight while down there, with all the walking I did.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 28, 2014 9:43 pm
by warmsugar
TommyBahama wrote:
warmsugar wrote:
catsway wrote:
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.
Thank you! This is very helpful. We are really looking forward to attending!
Used the shuttle which was nice to have. It stopped running at midnight. Used the Pink Taxi when shuttle wasnt around.
walk..really not all that far....it helps burn the calories from all the eating and drinking....I actually lost weight while down there, with all the walking I did.
Us gals, alone, late at night, we chose to ride to hotel. Walked all thru the day. Next time at night you can be our escort TJ

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 29, 2014 12:19 am
by ragtopW
OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 29, 2014 7:22 am
by RinglingRingling
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 29, 2014 1:51 pm
by ragtopW
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form
thanks!!! I will give them my story and then let them know it has gotten better.
I hate to give them Wine and Roses when there is another side to the story

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 29, 2014 3:49 pm
by TommyBahama
warmsugar wrote:
TommyBahama wrote:
warmsugar wrote:
catsway wrote:
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:
catsway wrote:The previous post causes us MOTM newbies to inquire what block of Duval does Street Fest take place? Another question, what are anyone's experiences with the shuttles? With most of the entertainment taking place at the CMR, we would like to find an easy way to get down to Front Street and back.

There will be hard core MOTM folks who will be able to shed better light, but I will try to help. When I was at MOTM in 2012 I stayed at the Casa, so I took the shuttle from the Casa to various places a few times. I found the shuttle experience to be very good. From the start of MOTM until the end, the shuttles were in heavy rotation around the island. It was easy to grab the shuttle from the Casa to get where ever we wanted to go. If you are on front street and want to grab a shuttle, find a corner, watch for a shuttle, and always keep your MOTM badges handy to wave so that the shuttle will stop for you. Also, bring a bunch of $1.00 bills with you for tipping the driver. I believe the street festival is on the block where margaritaville is. Like I said, other people will be able to better answer your questions, but I hoped this helps, and I hope I meet you at MOTM this year. It will be here before we know it.
Thank you! This is very helpful. We are really looking forward to attending!
Used the shuttle which was nice to have. It stopped running at midnight. Used the Pink Taxi when shuttle wasnt around.
walk..really not all that far....it helps burn the calories from all the eating and drinking....I actually lost weight while down there, with all the walking I did.
Us gals, alone, late at night, we chose to ride to hotel. Walked all thru the day. Next time at night you can be our escort TJ
deal

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 30, 2014 11:35 am
by warmsugar
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form
Went last year being my first time. The food outside prices about same in other restaurants in KW. Wed. night bought an expensive fancy drink but was nice to see for the next 3 days tables set up with very reasonable prices. Considering how many were at the Casa, the staff was good. Cant beat the fun for the small registration fee. As of now, planning on this year again & staying longer. BTW that fancy drink was awesome, key lime something, will be bought again.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 30, 2014 1:48 pm
by ragtopW
warmsugar wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form
Went last year being my first time. The food outside prices about same in other restaurants in KW. Wed. night bought an expensive fancy drink but was nice to see for the next 3 days tables set up with very reasonable prices. Considering how many were at the Casa, the staff was good. Cant beat the fun for the small registration fee. As of now, planning on this year again & staying longer. BTW that fancy drink was awesome, key lime something, will be bought again.
my most recent time was 2007 I was at the Casa on Monday and then on Thursday. the Burgers went up $1.50 and the Beer went up $1.00 from Monday to Thursday. .not on Duval... in the Casa. also I was very nice and pointed out the short falls of the weekend to the Food and Beverage manager and was told "well if you don't like it you can go spend your money on Duval "

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 31, 2014 1:39 am
by warmsugar
ragtopW wrote:
warmsugar wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form
Went last year being my first time. The food outside prices about same in other restaurants in KW. Wed. night bought an expensive fancy drink but was nice to see for the next 3 days tables set up with very reasonable prices. Considering how many were at the Casa, the staff was good. Cant beat the fun for the small registration fee. As of now, planning on this year again & staying longer. BTW that fancy drink was awesome, key lime something, will be bought again.
my most recent time was 2007 I was at the Casa on Monday and then on Thursday. the Burgers went up $1.50 and the Beer went up $1.00 from Monday to Thursday. .not on Duval... in the Casa. also I was very nice and pointed out the short falls of the weekend to the Food and Beverage manager and was told "well if you don't like it you can go spend your money on Duval "
Managers remark was uncalled for, not good people skills I guess.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: March 31, 2014 9:17 am
by catsway
ragtopW wrote:
warmsugar wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:OK I have a question (or two)
my most recent MOTM was 2007 and the Casa was a hot mess. (not enough bar staff,wait staff, we couldn't get a meal, they raised the prices for the food and drink...ETC....) I have a couple locals that are asking me questions. so before I tell them about my latest Casa adventure... has it gotten any better? or is it the same cluster....... that I ran into?
thanks
they have been more organized since, but... they really are proud of their services and the prices reflect that. too, after two weeks of fantasy fest running, a lot of the staff are not in tip-top form
Went last year being my first time. The food outside prices about same in other restaurants in KW. Wed. night bought an expensive fancy drink but was nice to see for the next 3 days tables set up with very reasonable prices. Considering how many were at the Casa, the staff was good. Cant beat the fun for the small registration fee. As of now, planning on this year again & staying longer. BTW that fancy drink was awesome, key lime something, will be bought again.
my most recent time was 2007 I was at the Casa on Monday and then on Thursday. the Burgers went up $1.50 and the Beer went up $1.00 from Monday to Thursday. .not on Duval... in the Casa. also I was very nice and pointed out the short falls of the weekend to the Food and Beverage manager and was told "well if you don't like it you can go spend your money on Duval "
Now this thread causes us to inquire, can outside coolers be brought to the Casa Marina Beach Stage area? Just want to save a little scratch whenever we can. Also, does anyone know what kind of pet policy they may enforce at the Big and Beach Stages? Mr. Utley is planning to attend during the day time shows.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: May 4, 2014 6:56 am
by catsway
Okay, another question. What are the seating arrangements like at the Casa concert venues? Is seating provided or are beach chairs necessary?

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: May 4, 2014 4:03 pm
by ParrotHeadInThe Making
Seating will be provided. You will not need to bring a beach chair.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: May 5, 2014 7:44 am
by catsway
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:Seating will be provided. You will not need to bring a beach chair.
Glad to hear this. We were concerned about having to lug them around. Makes carrying a beverage much easier.

Re: Who's going to Havana Daydreamin' MOTM 10/29 - 11/2, 2014?

Posted: May 5, 2014 4:44 pm
by ScarletB
catsway wrote:
ParrotHeadInThe Making wrote:Seating will be provided. You will not need to bring a beach chair.
Glad to hear this. We were concerned about having to lug them around. Makes carrying a beverage much easier.
That's not the entire story on seating though. You have to make sure you are there EARLY because the beach chairs etc are first come first served. I know last year they ran out for a while. Plus the longer you wait the less options you have of WHERE you sit. But if you get there early and stake out your piece of sand you should be fine.