Who is really to blame?

[Rabbitz]

The recent passing of Russell Johnson - the Professor from Gilligan's Island - got me thinking.

Where did my "Island Mojo" come from?

I grew up at the beach.

Long summers, riding the deadly treadly to Dee Why, Curl Curl and Freshwater beaches. Swimming lessons in the sea pools. Nippers (junior lifesaving), Surf Life Saving Clubs, trying to surf, sunburn, hamburgers and riding home in the dark.

But that isn't really "islander" is it?

I think that American TV shows are to blame.

I would get home from the beach, tired and sunburnt, to flop down in front of the idiot box. What would be on?

Flipper, Hawaii 5-0 and of course Gilligan's Island.

In my pre-teens I wanted to live on Gilligan's Island. In my teens I wanted to live in Mary-Anne's hut on Gilligan's Island.

So it seems that Sherwood Schwartz was the cause of all of this.

I guess I owe a lot to him and the Gilligan's Island team.

(My liver curses them however - someone pass me a rum & coconut drink...)

[Bicycle Bill]

Some people claim there's a woman to blame (Mary Ann?), but you know, it's your own dambed fault.

By the way, 'deadly treadly'?  Aussie slang for bicycle?

-"BB"-

[Rabbitz]

Hi Bill,

Deadly treadly was what we called our bicycles back in those days.

It was probably closer to the truth than our parents would have wanted. Lots of the bikes were built, by us, out of bits and pieces we found - mostly at the rubbish tip. Had one memorable crash when the top tube separated from the head tube. Of course it happened halfway down the biggest hill in the district. Lost lots of bark and damaged my pride but for some reason we seemed to walk away from that sort of thing.

[krusin1]

MaryAnn.... really?

I know Ginger was high-maintenance, but anything that fast and with those kind of curves is GOING to be......




Jus' sayin'...

[LIPH]

I saw Tina Louise (Ginger) walking through Rockefeller Center in NYC about 15 years ago. The years have not been kind to her.

[krusin1]

I saw Tina Louise (Ginger) walking through Rockefeller Center in NYC about 15 years ago. The years have not been kind to her.

hey.... considering she was 30+ before she even GOT to the island.... I'm willing to give her some leeway.

From age 20 to who knows, she was smokin' hot....

[big john]

My vote goes for MaryAnn. (Dawn Wells)

[Bicycle Bill]

Interesting bits of trivia re: Mary Anne (Dawn Wells).

1)  Although Ginger was supposed to be the big Hollywood movie starlet, Mary Anne was the beauty pageant winner.  Dawn Wells was Miss Nevada 1959 and represented that state in the 1960 Miss America pageant, although she did not advance to the final ten.

2)  She is the only cast member who continued to receive royalties from the show.  The original contract called for royalty payments to end after the fifth rebroadcast, which was standard for those days.  Her husband at the time, talent agent Larry Rosen, noted this and warned her that if the show turned out to be a success it could cause her to miss out on a lot of money.  She took his advice and asked for an amendment to the royalty clause; the producers granted it (never dreaming that the show would still be on the air almost 50 years later) and as a result she and creator Sherwood Schwartz were the only two people connected with the show who still continued to receive money from it.

3)  Tina Louise (Ginger) had a clause in her contract stating that she would receive a billing of "also starring Tina Louise as Ginger" and that no one else's name would follow hers in the credits, and for this reason the first season's theme song merely glossed over Mary Anne and the Professor as "... and the rest".  Before the start of the second season, however, Bob Denver (Gilligan) approached the producers and insisted that the two be added to the opening credits, stating that their characters were just as vital to the dynamics of the show as any of the others.  When the producers started pointing to the clause in Louise’s contract, Denver countered by referring to a clause in his own contract which stated he could have his name placed anywhere in the credits *HE* liked and threatened to have *HIS* name moved to last place, so an agreement was hammered out, a revised theme song was recorded, and Wells and Johnson took their rightful places in the opening montage.

-"BB"-

[phjrsaunt]

MaryAnn.... really?

I know Ginger was high-maintenance, but anything that fast and with those kind of curves is GOING to be......




Jus' sayin'...

Well, you know, it's the hair
(and I blame Cuervo).

[Rabbitz]

MaryAnn.... really?

I know Ginger was high-maintenance, but anything that fast and with those kind of curves is GOING to be......

Jus' sayin'...

You see even back then, I knew something to be true "A man's got to know his limitations".

So Mary-Ann seemed a more obtainable goal

[ragtopW]

I dream of ....




Wait!!! Isn't that a song??

[Tiki Torches]

I dream of ....



Wait!!! Isn't that a song??

It's sampled in this 'un.

[Bicycle Bill]

I dream of ....


Wait!!! Isn't that a song??

It's sampled in this 'un.

Proof yet again that the only reason (c)rap music is allowed to exist is to demonstrate that disco wasn't that bad after all.

-"BB"-

[Tiki Torches]

I dream of ....


Wait!!! Isn't that a song??

It's sampled in this 'un.

Proof yet again that the only reason (c)rap music is allowed to exist is to demonstrate that disco wasn't that bad after all.

I'm not a fan of rap but it's like all music, there is good and bad. Amongst the more talented, there is also an inherent skill involved in scratching, so much so that those folks have come to be referred to as turntablists. Personally, I have a great deal of respect for them as well as the genre itself.

I thought this all rap episode of MTV Unplugged was pretty cool in that all of the performers played live instruments, sort of a f*ck you to those that have falsely accused rappers of having no musical ability.

[krusin1]

MaryAnn.... really?

I know Ginger was high-maintenance, but anything that fast and with those kind of curves is GOING to be......




Jus' sayin'...

Well, you know, it's the hair
(and I blame Cuervo).

uh yeah.... the hair IS part of it. PART of it.....

And yeah... Cuervo would definitely have an impact. LOL

[ragtopW]

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I dream of ....



Wait!!! Isn't that a song??

It's sampled in this 'un.


sorry not the one I was thinking of

[lime rickie]

Is it this one?

[Tiki Torches]

Is it this one?

No "I Dream of Jeannie" there, that's a Suzanne Vega original but it did lead to a lot of folks covering it and remixing it. One thing I just learned is that Tom's Diner was used as Monk's Cafe in Seinfeld.

[Rabbitz]

So this thread took a pretty strange left turn then

[Tiki Torches]

So this thread took a pretty strange left turn then

Buffett's not immune to rapping so maybe that means he's not far off from sampling "I Dream of Jeannie", "Tom's Diner" and maybe even the "Gilligan's Island" theme. It's not really that much of a stretch considering he's already done the The Andy Griffith Show theme song in concert.